Leave it on?

Leaving equipment on continuously does not turn me on. A broader outlook, and just saying.

How long will you keep your new gear?
How do you feel about global warming?
How confident are you leaving other appliances on all day and night?
How would you feel if your house burnt down?

Do you just don’t bother thinking about any of the above?

Ignorance is bliss but plain stupid.

Keeping new gear on all the time is low risk. The “so far so good” syndrome like a guy falling off a skyscraper overheard as he was falling saying “so far so good” The older it gets, incrementally it becomes a higher risk of becoming a fire hazard.

All our electrical items on standby or left on 24/7 add to the greenhouse effect for you and more importantly, your offspring in the future. Maybe considered a selfish act for your short term gain, poo pooing it a finger up to society….”It doesn’t bother me much”

Would you not turn other products you own completely off such as a computer, TV or washing machine for example if you are not going to use them for some time?

Ask your local fire officer how he views leaving multiple electrical items on for years on end and how safe they remain as they get older. Even more important is how would your insurers view this in a fire related claim if you are 100% honest…. “Oh shucks l never turned that (seat of the fire) amplifier off even when l was not at home” or as stated by one poster on here. “I did this with my amp lasted 30 years!”

l just can’t get my head around people unconcerned or ignorant, sticking their heads in the sand for the sake of a weeny bit more sound quality. If you “leave on” ask yourself… do l turn it off when l go on vacation for two weeks? If you do turn it off, why? What is the difference? Why do you do that?  
 

l warmed up to the fact long ago that leaving unnecessary gear on is dangerously short sighted or stupid, so for me it is just plain illogical.
 

@grannyring ”What does this have to do with the topic?”

l think you missed the point. My point was not leaving electrical devices on unnecessarily. 
Refrigerators left on yes, the nature of the beast. Every electrical appliance is a risk factor. In London a refrigerator caused a fire in a housing complex, Grenfell Tower. 70 lives lost that night.y

Yes again with global warming, arguably self destruction with the jury more in than out. That was only part of the debate regarding wasted power, it’s not all cleanly generated like wind or hydro-electric.

@mulveling Good points posted on what you believe “should be kept OFF” 👍

Turn off or leave on 2.  The benefits of from the off starts.

Manufacturers and dealers will always say “keep it turned on” as gear sounds better warmed up. We all know it is mostly true. They want us all to be happy with our purchase’s every time and want revisits buying more stuff further up the price line. They will not want to be involved however if your place burns to the ground afterwards.

Said on here….

”Standby mode keeps the solid-state circuitry of the amplifier in a reduced power mode, maintaining excellent performance benefits while consuming little power”

Hmmm…. Another way of looking at this…

Leaving any car engine turned on keeps the engine warm in the reduced power idle mode, maintaining excellent “from the off” benefits while consuming little petrol.

Everything wears out from when you first start using it, and if you continually use it. Electrical components permanently turned on is not guaranteed to extend their life.

Another thought….. Have you ever added up the wattage of all the electrical devices in your home on permanent standby mode? There may be a big surprise as to how much power idles away with your energy bills. 

@grannyring ”conveniences come with risks”

I note your points, thank you. No offence intended.

@gano The Hots

l just came back from Lanzarote and it was hotter in England. Most Americans think of England being rain and green fields. Parts of the UK are officially becoming drought areas.

People are flying out to Continental Europe seeking the heat and Sun. The mind boggles. It’s turning into an upside down World

@jomace 

Why not (as it’s on) ask the computer what it thinks is best practice?

@aewarren “Treat your SS equipment like an old lady’s dress. Once it’s on, leave it on”

The comment above, are you trying to drop us a gentle hint about your life style choice?
To run/burn us in gently?

No judgments from me, it’s a free World 🤐

What do you think @grannyring ?

@vair68robert  l think you could be called an energy champion. $155 is quite a hit for an 85 watt amplifier being left on for a year and just for one piece of gear.

@gano 
This site is so educational.

Dresses allow for more air around your instruments of your own intimate personal system. During hot weather dresses are a considerable asset to the “nether regions”

Think of it as a part of a room treatment dressing solution.

@spenav 

Have you not heard of the butterfly effect? If not look it up, research it a little. Lots of little things all mount up.

Refrigerators are required to be left on, a fact of life.

The car example was an ironic comparison to make people think. I see it worked on you. It was not like your car engine “doing serious work” It was not meant to be taken seriously.

Manufacturers want you to buy more of the same, it’s called sales marketing and supply and demand. Some manufacturers intentionally build in operational redundancy (like mobile phones), but that’s another subject.

l will ask my stepson about equipment related fires in the UK. He is a chief fire officer Commander for the new Hinckley Point 2 Nuclear Power Station under construction, and the Trident submarines laid up in Plymouth over here in the UK. Will that do? 

It should not be considered a swear word to use stupid, ignorant or the like and l do not address these to any individuals. I’m sorry if you may possibly find my “handle” mylogic in anyway confrontational, but if you do l suggest you are maybe the child here.

My opinions are mine alone and in my opinion only based only on what l believe.

@invalid ”we shouldn’t even be listening to stereo equipment, it’s not a necessity”

invalid logic, l love it. Let’s not do anything ever again and go back to living in a cave. All sorted

@gano invalid has got something there….. Wait a minute, l take it back. He said “if global warming was so dire” ??
 

It is dire.

l am still optimistic (just) in believing that this often quoted solution is still viable….. “Necessity is the mother of invention”

@hilde45 “It works in many places not stuck in binary ruts”  l agree with your last post as it applies so well with the quote above.

Invalid question above

Oil is okay with no other choices.

Coal was okay before oil (dirtier and less efficient than oil)

Wood burning fires since the dawn of man and out of necessity were okay (new wood burning fires installed in the home by choice today, not such a good idea)

Going forward it is a question of using less carbon fuels, and everyone is capable of contributing to a solution.

Choices that can be made today. 

@invalid 

As l said, oil is okay with no other choices. 
 

Your last question to me in unanswerable.

@aewarren ”…my neighbours system sounds better when it’s turned off”

l know the feeling. I even think along similar lines with some of my neighbours TV’s.  
 

Often the sound is so bad they sometimes have the subtitles on, and the picture quality is mediocre. Why do they leave their sets on the factory/show room “vivid” default settings? Bright pink faces and no deep blacks give the game away. The bigger the screens the worse it gets. It seams to never enter their minds to go onto the picture menus.

It is beyond reason how bad straight out of the box, plug and play televisions can look like.

@au_lait ”My cello preamp has no switch”

In the UK we have switches on our 13amp sockets as a British Electrical Standard, so it’s not a problem isolating your preamp if over here. I know the US has 110v with normally no switches at the plug for on and off. It sounds a little bit crazy to us Brits if we buy equipment with no on/off switch to not be able to isolate the unit without pulling a plug from the wall.

l know it’s completely safe to just push in and pull out a 110v plug and that is not part of the discussion. I am talking about pure convenience and the options for gear with no on/off. I think that gear made for the American market should logically, and for ease of use, be manufactured with on/off switches.

@russwill “My amplifier does not have a standby mode. If it did l would use it”

Obviously my last post is irrelevant if equipment is plugged in and left on forever, but as you say, having more user options are plus points.

@au_lait “…. the heat but also the electrical bill”.

As @vair68robert said previously in the earlier days of this discussion…..

A single amplifier at the national average KWh rate, consuming just 85w powered on amounts to $166 a year.
 

Your Alephs draw 500w each. Good job you turn them off.