Leave it on?

like a old lady's dress

I had no idea that I need to be educated for this 

 wait till you learn that we can’t even measure the Earth’s temperature accurately

maybe unlivable and deadly hot in Europe right now is not accurate for you, but counting the number of dead is a precise number

@mylogic yes, places famously and traditionally not hot or warm like the UK are unprepared. Barely surviving these heat waves is the new norm in Europe

@grannyring 

 short term trend  is no way to draw long term conclusions

right, I am drawing conclusions from the past 50 years. During which the climate on the Planet changed dramatically. The place where I grew up, when I was a kid, 85 degrees was big news and people talked it for a week, is now 100+ for weeks and months. Not once in a while but EVERY SINGLE summer in the last decade getting hotter every year.

it wasn't opinions or conclusions, it was numbers = facts. Stuff outside of how we like it, how we feel about it. 

but no "lecture."

yes exactly. There is a history of how the deniers refused to be lectured. And perhaps the believers sometimes talked down to them and triggered the refusal to be lectured.

We are in the same boat. Facts are not up for discussion, we are all subject to gravity and boiling in extreme heat.

Remember that suggesting a nuclear solution is not denying climate change. 

I have nothing against SAFE nuclear. Whatever gets us out of this mess that doesn't kill anyone is fine. 

@invalid I have no idea what that means.