KT120 Tube compatibility w/ Jadis Defy 7 Amp MK 1


Hi, I have an original Jadis Defy I just acquired for I liked its sound very much. However, I don't have any users manual or schematic for the serial #445. Could anyone help by sending a .pdf or electronic copy.

Also, there is a new tube out for the KT88/6550/KT90/EL34 socket line called the KT120. It is the most powerful tube of all of them.

I would like to replace all of the current (12) 6550B tubes with the new larger KT-120 Tubes by Tung Sol (which has a plate dissipation of 60 watts, making it the most powerful tube in the 6550/KT88/KT90 family, or approximately 10 more watts/tube vs. KT90 . Also, when used at the parameters found in existing 6550/KT88/KT90 circuits, the Tung-Sol KT120 is impervious to overload, delivering peak power with extreme reliability and long tube life). Another note regarding universal replacement/compatibility is that the glass envelope of the KT-120 tube is 1/2" taller than other KT88 cousins to accommodate the larger internal plate structure and larger control grid cooling fins, which won't present a problem. However, a word of caution is given regarding the KT120's small increase in current vs. the next most powerful KT88 or KT90 (close in current draw), wherein they say the filament of this tube draws 1.7A to 1.95A, or 0.1 Amp to 0.35 Amp (100 to 350 mA) more current than a KT88 at 1.6 amp; so they say to be safe and recommended to check with your amp manufacturer to make sure the Jadis Defy 7 filament transformer will or can handle the increase in current (at 0.1 to 0 .35A/tube and if you have a quad that is 0.4-1.4A total additional current draw with normal current of 1.6A/tube) without any transformer mods. Will this small increase in current for the Jadis Defy 7 filament transformer be able to handle this increase draw in current required of the Tung-Sol JT120?

Any help answering this technical question would be greatly appreciated and I would gladly pay for a owners manual/schematic for this 100wpc push-pull configured amp design.
bradleys
Bradleys,
I was able to get a schematic from Jadis, eventually, for my Defy 7 Mk 2, SN 623. (They said mine is a Mk 2, but it has the larger power transformer and looks like a Mk 3 to me.) The scan they sent me is a little fuzzy, but it is usable if only for a reference while you verify component values visually in your own amp. I've read that they made frequent changes, so it may not be representative of your exact circuit. I would be glad to scan a copy of it to you if you would like. For my SN they recomend 4 to 5 volts bias current per tube, and very importantly, 160mA slow blow fuses. Also, I know for a fact, your main fuse will not blow in an over current situation if you do not have a proper AC ground.
I would be cautious of running more current through any older Defy 7, especially the Mk 1, which I've read runs hot as is. It has been my experience that the design pushes the limits of its passive parts if the bias is left to stray. Owning one of these things can be a great experience if you properly maintain it, unfortunately I think many audiophiles find themselves in deep water with these amps because they are unprepared and uninformed as to what they are dealing with. With a little research, and some DIY skills, I've found this amp to be my lasting favorite over the years. When is the last time someone personally repaired their old Levinson or Krell that you know of?
Happily, I still have my "upgraded" Defy 7 as my primary amp, but I've gone the opposite direction power wise. I'm enjoying it with the "reissue" Mullard EL34s. With my speakers I have yet to run out of power, or even come close. Jadis makes wonderful transformers, and that is one component I would hesitate to risk damaging. Resistors and caps are easy to replace, but if you burn out a tranny, well, that would really suck.
Good luck, and please let us know how it turns out.
Hi Skipweasel. I have purchased 2 Defy 7's to run Dali Megalines, one is a MkI the other a II. I am hoping to use the MkI to run the tops and the II the woofers. Could I ask you for a copy of the schematics? I would love them on file!!
Hello Calle Jr. These are from 2005 with kt 90 from factory, here you can also set in 6550 without problems. After two weeks playing with the original kt 88 from Jadis, bias was too high, they burn out after 30 hours already, the Dutch importer has bias decreases but problem with all brands was 88 kt at 1500 hours is 50% lot and the rest is worn. The 120 kt is deployed without the bias is increased, is possible (this tube is much more power than a kt 90) And this is the most beautiful sound that my wife and I find we have ever received from a tube.
The transformer,s of the ja 80 are themselves less hot with the 120 kt, no matter what and how old the ja 80 is, the transformer is more than heavy enough for the 120 kt.