Kronos Sparta or TechDas Air Force III?

Dear @daveyf : "  nor a pretty sound..""

Well nothing is perfect and there are some issues with the vacuum hold down mechanism. 

Some Micro Seiki TT models that came with the hold down the surface material where the LP rest is metal one and here exist a problem of resonances/vibrations not well damped but other MS models fixed that with a hold down non-metal contact LP surface and ovbiously all improved with this change. In the AT after market item happened the same and AT had both the metal and felt like contact surface.

In both kind of hold down mechanism exist other issue and is that the LP side in contact with the hold down must be perfectly cleaned as the hold down contact surface because the microscopic dust be sticked for ever if not perfectly cleaned.

The hold down it's not very good with the LP waves but because the LP is almost " sticked to the platter making that the stylus/cantilever " feels " less movements and we can listen its " integrity " in the reproduced sound.

The after market items gives too or works too as a flyweel adding its weigth.

R.

Dear @renatocomes  : Both turntables are very good looking aND OBVIOUSLY WILL MAKES THAT YOUR AUDIO FRIENDS EXCLAIM: WOW !

The issue is if that same of Wow is similar on its quality level performance.

By definition a TT should has not a " color/signature by it self, a TT must be just neutral with out adding nothing other that its main target that's seep stability in the short time.

This is what the Air Force designer post/says in his site:

"  Furthermore, as gunmetal is relatively a soft and tensile metal, you will notice that a subtle glow is added to the sound. ""

Obviously that that unit is really far away to be free of listen colorations and the Kronos it's not better not even in sspeed staBILITY THAT MUST BE YOUR FIRST PRIORITY TO CHOOSE ANY tt OF THE LEVEL YOU ARE LOOKING FOR.

In your other thread you received very good options to as the DD NVS unit that's closer to an " ideal TT ".

As important as is the TT the cartridges/tonearms combination perhaps are more critical an important and these cartridge/tonearm combination really can makes a differences for the better in any audio system where a TT is not closer to that characteristic. Curious that in both TT sites do not exist the speed stability measures.

Of course that seems as you can get good price for either unit but price as important I think is more important that this TT you want to buy probably be your last TT , think a little about.

Now, if you are " sticked " to either unit then buy either of them because our opinions are only that opinions an even the owners of those TTs their room/systems arwe different from yours.

Btw, the vacuum hold down LP you always can add to any TT as after market new devices/item.

Regards and enjoy the MUSIC NOT DISTORTIONS,

R.