klipschorns, they kick ass for sure


hello folks.   for those out there that think the big klipschorn's are not good enough to be a high end quality speaker, guess what??   your wrong!!   I have been in audio for over 40 years. I have heard many speaker systems over the years. I have very good speakers now in my home. I have good equipment running them.  I picked up a pair of k-horns last week.  1986 model year.  replaced the crossovers with crites xovers.  one tweeter blown.  replaced both with ct120 tweeters from crites. hooked them up to my parasound  3500 amp ( yes, way overkill  )  but I wasent in the mood to move it.  speakers placed where they are supposed to be in the corners of the room.  well let me tell you all it took was 2 minutes to decide these things are the bomb.  I dident hear any of the stuff I been reading about over the last 30 years how these speakers are harsh, no good bass and everything else everybody says about them.  as far as im concerned they are clean, clear, crisp, and loud. did I say loud.  volume starts a 7 o'clock,  at 9 o'clock  your ears start to bleed.  I guess the 350 watts into a speaker that only needs 20 will do that.  and all the stuff I hear about  ss amps these speakers don't like.  only 30 watt tube amps will do or you will hear all kinds of noise.  well, all I can say is bull crap to that.  what I here is a speaker sounding better then just about anything else I ever heard.  I played rock,jazz,classical,  all passed with flying color's. all I can say is you guys out there that think they suck. have your ears cleaned out and go listen again.  yes, the 350 watt power house is going to go before I blow everything up. 
tomtab

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funny to say that coolhunter.    the first pair i heard in around 1980 was in brazilian rosewood
i did not mean to insult anybody out here in the high end audio community.  i was just excited and when excited words just flow out of my mouth. 
thank you bill.  you said it better then me!!!      you hear stuff for so long and when put to the test its like what are they talking about.  i heard a pair in 1980 and liked what i heard then.  over the years things tend to change.  well after all that time listening to this pair did not change my mind. they sound great.  and because of the 90 pound weight of the parasound amp, im not changing it out anytime soon. just have to be careful with the volume knob, thats all
at what price point are the tons of speakers on the market that smokes them mr  missioncoonery??   $500,  $750,  $1,000,  $1,500.. you know,  i always looked at it as there is always something better.  are you happy with what you have.  i also have a pair of infinity 1b's.  I guess there are also tons of used speakers on the market that smoke them also!!!   and my magnepan  20.7's.   they are real crummy sounding. i dont know why i ever picked them up.   you my friend are what we call a audiophile snob
really now???    smoke them???.   i dont think so.  thats funny,  i have heard many a speaker in my time and although i have heard better never one that smoked them.  i guess you have $100,000 speakers that are better then anything out there.  i never said they were the best i heard, just darn good when set up properly and good equipment used. 
well,  I guess everybody is not as fortunate as missioncoonery is to hear $100,000 speakers.   im very sorry that my mediocre speakers are not up to his standards.  40 years ago if we had a 25 watt receiver and a $200 pair of speakers we were happy.  now i guess we have to have the best of everything to be happy.  and what the hell is wrong with me saying they are one of the best speakers i heard!!!!!    nothing is wrong with it.  i guess if someone dosent like your speakers and think they are junk how dare they.   well i dont know what kind of speakers you have but i can tell you one thing--- I DONT LIKE THEM,THEY SUCK..  so I just addressed your comments.  I can give it as good as anyone so keep it up.   
i would just like to say thank you to all who have supported me here.  there is nothing more to say about this post so im done with it. thank you again
im going to dig out my cerwin vega's... now they were absolutely  the best speaker I ever heard.  and who could ever deny that.  my magnepans dont stand a chance against them.  
yes,,, the remark about cleaning your ears out was a poor choice. its not me and I would not use that term again.  but the good news now is that i found out there are a ton of used speakers on the market that just simply blow the khorns away in every possible way. so im going to get rid of them and start looking for one of them!!!.  then i will have a speaker like my peers.  and live happily ever after.
mr_m,    thank you. I never had a problem with your post   bill, thank you again
MR tabl10's,   im sorry about the insults and my bad spelling. but you can be sure of one thing,  i will probably never post here again.  it sure as hell wasn't worth it.  you folks just love to criticize and put people down and correct their spelling.  and as if that wasn't enough put down their systems because yours is always better.  we'll at least i enjoy mine. 
SO HOW MANY TIMES TO I HAVE TO SAY IM SORRY TO MISSIONCOONERY FOR MY CHOICE OF A BAD SENTENCE THAT PISSED HIM OFF.
IM SORRY,  IM SORRY,  IM SORRY,  IM SORRY,  IM SORRY,  IN SORRY,  IM SORRY,  IM SORRY,  IM SORRY,  IN SORRY,  IM SORRY,  IN SORRY,  IN SORRY, IM SORRY,  IM SORRY,  IM SORRY,      IS THAT ENOUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
missioncoonery only chimes in when someone else says something that he agrees with.   so for the record let me say that  i have upgraded the tweeter and midrange drivers and also the crossover is upgraded. the new tweeter is said to have a smoother freq response.  extended  range to 20,000 kHz. and better sound then factory driver  same with the new midrange driver.  so i guess my pair would sound a little better then the factory setup.  not much but a little.  and thats all that counts.
to clarify my changing out parts.  the khorns i picked up are 1986 units. one tweeter was blown so i replaced both of them with upgraded tweeters from crites. these were over $200 for the pair so im assuming they are decient tweeters.   the crossovers that came with the speakers are the ak2 type which are considered not as good as other crossovers used in this speaker. plus they are 30 years old. so i went with new ak3 crossovers from crites.  the midranges i changed out with a pair of atlas pd-5vh which are replacements for the k55's.  also the old wire was changed out because of the factory wire being corroded.  i did this not because i heard the speaker before i changed stuff out,  i did it because of the age of the speaker and i had a blown tweeter to start with. also, reading up on the speaker i knew it would benefit from such changes.  so what i hear now is a nice sounding speaker.  its not the best sounding speaker i have but its a nice sounding speaker.  i did not listen to the speaker with the old crossover and one good tweeter in it so i cannot tell you of any differences.   all i can say is my khorns  are upgraded to sound as best they can with what i have done to them and im liking the sound. i took out the parasound 350 watt amp and put in the b&k 202+ i have and the speaker sounds GREAT!!   well, thats about it.  what more can i say.
yes bill,    the b&k 202+ mellowed out the whole top end of the speaker like i knew it would.   speaker sounds very smooth and balanced.  i knew i bought the 202+ for a good reason 25 years ago.