Klipsch Palladium P-39F?

These are not meant to compete with other horns, they have a model in each bracket to compete with B&W's 800 series.

"I have no idea why somebody thinks klipsch is not gunning to be "Horns".. Okay I will play along,"

Go to the Klipsch forum and read about the blind test they did against the B&W 802D. This is the market that they are going for.

"But I think they are in over their heads. In their price range they have to compete with Wilson Audio Sophia, B&W 802, Thiel 3.7, Focal Alto, and the list goes on and on."

Why does everybody doubt that Klipsch can compete in this price range but a company like Eggleston or some other startup is accepted? I'll take a Lexus over a Mercedes any day and prople use to look down on Toyotas. Remember that Wilson owners dismiss B&W's as mass produced "midgrade" speakers.

For the record, my user name was from my previous ownership of Khorns in tigerwood and I now own B&W Signature 800's, so I am not just a loyal Klipsch follower.

Klipsch is doing this to sell a few pairs of the Palladiums and get a "halo effect" on the rest of their products. They are also only selling them in higher end shops (not Best Buy).

I wish them well and they certainly have the financing and R&D to build a speaker in this range. If they can build a speaker that equals the B&W 802's and requires a 100 to 200 wpc amp instead of 500wpc I'd say that they pulled off a major success.

I always recommend Klipsch to people who are new to audio and want a good deal. Their reference and heritage are great bargains if the source is up to the task. Harshness is an issue with the wrong source, but will be with any revealing speaker.

The Palladiums should be interesting. My Khorns were very dynamic. Great detail but the soundstage was like a vertical wall. No depth and a gap in the middle. If the Palladiums have the same dynamics and better imaging they should be a winner. The real problem is that many will snub them a junk because of the manufacturer. Funny hobby this is.

Undertow, I’m sure that my system is junk but I will just have to live with it.

The tweeter comment is a disappointment. Did they use an bright amp like a Krell? I would guess tubes or a laid back amp like Mac or Classe is needed.

Undertow - it looked like you were classifying B&W's 800's as "midgrade" Anyway, no problem.

"Has anybody seen the picture of the P-17B bookshelf in the P Series? The finish on it looks just like the plain finish that they have been putting on their synergy series for a decade... 4k/pr for that? When you look at the other monitors that are at this price range I can't see how they could sell a single pair... I'd grab something from Salk Sound - have a great sounding speaker and a work of art for that price."

Check out this thread on the Klipsch website. The finish looks very nice:

http://forums.klipsch.com/forums/t/106978.aspx?PageIndex=1

Undertow, did you ever sell the DM3000's by B&W (vintage 85 to 87 or so)? I have a pair of these. I replaced the caps in the crossovers and cleaned them up. I can't believe the perfromance that I get from these.