Klipsch Palladium P-39F?

Is no one else interested in these speakers?

Their sensitivity is rated at 99dB @ 2.83V/1m. They also ship with speakers measurements for EACH pair of speakers. The bass drivers are made of aluminum/Rohacell/Kevlar ply. I believe they are priced at $15,000 and hope they live up to their price. That puts them (price wise) up against a lot of really good speakers. I am hoping they are VERY dynamic and still tonally balance.

Any thoughts?

Here is a link to the spec page
http://www.klipsch.com/palladium/P39FTechSpecs.html

I agree that they are not geared toward the horn crowd and more in line with what B&W and some of the other heavy hitters have out. I think Klipsch is a good mid/low end brand and you get a lot for your money (compared to other stuff at Best Buy, Crutchield, etc). But I think they are in over their heads. In their price range they have to compete with Wilson Audio Sophia, B&W 802, Thiel 3.7, Focal Alto, and the list goes on and on.

But who knows maybe they will be very good. I like the looks and I like American companies to do well in general. I am looking forward to a full review.

From what I have read when they designed the cabinets/drivers they used computer modeling (rather than building lots and lots of test speakers) which I think is a good place to start (I should note I am an engineer by trade.... so I am bias). I think the cabinets look well designed but again there are many good designs on the market.

Well all pissing contests aside I have high hopes for the line. I value dynamics above all things. IMO dynamics comes with high sensitivity.... or lots and lots of power. If everything else is in line I may look into a pair for the second system in the bedroom (now B&W 703s). The wife does not like it real loud so I am looking for dynamics at low volume (65-70dB).

I helped a friend shop (and buy) a "cheap" surround system. After listening he bought klipsch book shelves all around. I set it up for him. It was much better than I thought it would be (the sub was lacking but I have gotten use to the JL fathom). He only spent 3,500 on speakers and it made we question by 15,000+ in my surround sound speakers. Now I just spend my money on two channel. My point is Klipsch may bring more bang for the buck you people think.

Thanks for the post Tomer_tsin. I new I was in trouble when I could not even tell what language it was though lol.

It is disappointing to here you did not like them. I was thinking they would have sound stage issues but would make up for it with detail and dynamics. Your statement "treble was a little glassiness" was not what I was hoping to hear.

Anyway how was the punch/slam of the bass/lower mids. I don't think the forwardness of the midrange would bother me. I used to listen to a pair of Grado RS-1s in college for many many hours. I got uses to very forward mids to say the least and I grew to like it (knowing it was not natural... but fun).

Well Klipsch has prices on there site now..... The P-39F is $20,000!!! They are out of my price range now (15,000 max). I do not think they will sell well at that price.

http://www.klipsch.com/products/lists/floorstanding.aspx

Yusych,

Wow I can't believe it has been two years already sense I started this thread. I looked for a place to demo the Palladiums for a while and gave up. But one day about a year ago I made a trip to demo Magnepan 20.1, 3.6. I brought a lot of rock music because I knew that would be where the Magnepans would come up short (brought audiophile stuff too). After I was done with the Magnepan 3.6 the dealer looked at my music and instantly said I have Klipsch Palladiums in the other room. In the other room they had the Magnepan 20.1 and Klipsch P-38F ($12,000, three 8" woofers, etc) connected to an all Mcintosh front end.

Note, I used Metallica's "Black album" and Jack Johnsons' "On and on" for the following demo.

I started out listening to the P-38F right after the Magnepan 3.6 (also on Mcintosh stuff). My first thought was, wow that is a lot of bass. It seemed a little untextured though... but I blame the room, they were too close to the back wall IMO. The second thing that stood out to me is how small the soundstage seemed after the Magnepans. The speakers just sounded so small in space (left to right, front to back). I tried moving them around the room and playing with toe-in. Now keep in mind the soundstage on Magnepans is a little over-stated (as is the scale of voices) but the Klipsch are on the small side of the soundstage scale.

The mids of the P-38F were every bit as detailed as the Magnepan and maybe more so. They also seemed very natural even though logic told me there should be some horn coloration I did not hear it. The highs were also very detailed and not splashy at all.

After the Klipsch demo I immediately listened to the Magnepan 20.1 on Mcintosh's 1000 watt mono blocks. Compared to the Klipsch they seemed slow in the bass, lack midrange clarity but had great highs (I mean really great). All in all I feel the 20.1 is tonally a little bass heavy.

At the end of the day I did not buy any of these speakers. The 3.6 needs more bass in both extension and power for my tastes. I could not get over the soundstage of the Klipsch and I really wanted to like them. I really loved the corner horns back in the day. The 20.1 sounded ok, I don't think the Mcintosh is the right brand to pair with them. But at $13000 I want a speakers that is better build, I would need to demo them on different amps.

What else have you demoed? Thiel and Wilson will give you a lot of the good qualities of the Klipsch without as many short comings. If you are open to used speakers there are a lot of nice options out there for $5000-$6000.