Yes, I love the KLEI Copper Harmony. Look cheap but work quite good. But I do not understand. If they are all copper underneath as other website shows what is the difference between them all. I do not know - only try the Copper Harmony. But if it shows copper underneath the Pure Harmony and Absolute Harmony I do not see the difference between all these Harmonys. Mr Wonka suggest it is not just plain copper, but I look up alloys of copper and silver and find that no silver-copper alloy looks like copper. So I think that Copper Harmony is the best one to buy. Sound really good. I stick with this one.
KLE Innovations Silver HarmonyRCA's - not silver eh?
OK - so if you have not yet seen it, there are some postings on the web that calls into question the "integrity" of KLE Innovations. Simply because it was believed that the contacts in the Silver Harmony RCA plug should have been made from solid silver.
When those posters learned that this was not the case - they got upset.
One web site has even gone so far as to post photo’s of Harmony RCA’s with the silver coating ground off to display what they believe to be just plain copper.
Theatrics? - YOU BET!
Since I have been a proponent of KLE Innovations products for many years and have posted many reviews and positive comments. I felt it was important to bring this to everyone’s attention to avoid possible misconceptions and future postings that might propagate this kind of nonsense.
Please checkout the KLE Innovations site and read the Brochure and Technical Paper at
https://kleinnovations.com/kle-innovations-klei-products/klei-harmony-plug/
I think you will find that nowhere does it state that the Silver Harmony is fabricated from "solid silver".
"Silver Harmony" is just the name given to that model of RCA, which achieves a higher level of performance than the Copper Harmony, but not as high as the Pure Harmony or Absolute Harmony models.
To quote from KLE Innovations documents:
Note the key word here "Proprietary" - this means KLE Innovations are not about to give away what metals or alloys are used, so stop pontificating and just enjoy their abilities.
What you get is a family of RCA’s that are advanced way beyond the accepted norms of current RCA designs, that are capable of extremely high levels of resolution.
If you want more proof of their abilities simply google "Silver Harmony" and take a look at the number of cable fabricators that use them.
What did grinding off the silver coating achieve? One totally useless set of RCA’s - that’s all.
Regards - Steve
When those posters learned that this was not the case - they got upset.
One web site has even gone so far as to post photo’s of Harmony RCA’s with the silver coating ground off to display what they believe to be just plain copper.
Theatrics? - YOU BET!
Since I have been a proponent of KLE Innovations products for many years and have posted many reviews and positive comments. I felt it was important to bring this to everyone’s attention to avoid possible misconceptions and future postings that might propagate this kind of nonsense.
Please checkout the KLE Innovations site and read the Brochure and Technical Paper at
https://kleinnovations.com/kle-innovations-klei-products/klei-harmony-plug/
I think you will find that nowhere does it state that the Silver Harmony is fabricated from "solid silver".
"Silver Harmony" is just the name given to that model of RCA, which achieves a higher level of performance than the Copper Harmony, but not as high as the Pure Harmony or Absolute Harmony models.
To quote from KLE Innovations documents:
Proprietary mathematical modeling is utilized to produce the Silver Harmony’s ground to signal pin relationship, parameters, and determines the proprietary metallurgical processes that are used.
Note the key word here "Proprietary" - this means KLE Innovations are not about to give away what metals or alloys are used, so stop pontificating and just enjoy their abilities.
What you get is a family of RCA’s that are advanced way beyond the accepted norms of current RCA designs, that are capable of extremely high levels of resolution.
If you want more proof of their abilities simply google "Silver Harmony" and take a look at the number of cable fabricators that use them.
What did grinding off the silver coating achieve? One totally useless set of RCA’s - that’s all.
Regards - Steve
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Oh Yes, we can ping, ping, ping all day and be triplets! Funny joke. I like what Mr Wonka says (Willie Wonka and the Chocolate Factory is favourite movie). So there is more silver coating over the copper as we move up the through the silver, pure and absolute Harmony plugs? That is a good distinction to make which is not told plainly on the website. But I think sellers do not explain well either: https://www.partsconnexion.com/KLEI-79436.html "Absolute" Harmony Phono RCA Plug Highest Grade - Pure Silver on both Ground and Signal" Suggests to me that the ground and signal pins are pure silver but we know it is not true, as Mr Wonka says. But why not KLEI tell them to stop advertising falsely. |
Mr Wonka if you see this link to original advertising on KLEI site you will see that for Harmony plug for silver, pure and absolute harmony that original advertising says that contact pins use pure silver alloy: http://web.archive.org/web/20140927101434/http://kleinnovations.com/kle-innovations-klei-products/harmony-plug For copper harmony it says that is is silver plating over copper and that is true. This is best most honest plug. But others were advertised as pure silver alloy - not as silver plating over copper. Others are not honest plugs. But thank you. You agree that that is more silver plating on other plugs. I learn something. But it is still silver-plating over copper. Like in Copper Harmony. The Copper Harmony is good so why would more silver plating over copper work better? Where is pure silver plug from KLEI? |
Thank you auxinput. Maybe it is the ETI pure silver I need to upgrade to. Prices I see for the Absolute Harmony are around $130 - but this is still silver-plated copper as I say even if it has more silver plating. So a pure silver RCA plug at $148 does not seem so bad a price, even though expensive. Have you used ETI pure silver? It makes sense I think to upgrade from Copper Harmony to pure silver instead of another silver-plated copper Harmony. I thought for Absolute Harmony that it would be the pure silver one because it is "Absolute". Maybe KLEI make new Harmony plug in pure silver and they can call it "Ultimate Harmony". Joke, but still would be good for them to do. |
Thank you auxinput for your comments. The build quality on Furutech products is amazing, although I have not tried the RCAs you mentioned but I have tried the FP202 (R) banana plugs and liked them a lot. Yes, I understand that Rhodium is not the best conductor but I agree that on the banana plugs it sounded smooth and neutral when it settled in. But I was a bit worried that the Furutech rhodium RCAs may not be as good because the strength of the signal differs between interconnects and speaker cables. So I was thinking best conductivity would be better for low level signal in interconnects. |
@yping But I see original advertising through wayback machine link. Maybe KLEI make mistake, maybe not. But if mistake then a very silly one. And even if mistake then still very misleading for all customers. Still misleading advertising even if mistake, yet no clear statement or apology from KLEI for amazing confusion. And I see sellers of KLEI plugs still confused. But not my problem. I like the copper Harmony and I think I will try the ETI pure silver next and also the Furutech RCAs with rhodium plating. |