Kingsound King II vs King


Kings Audio in Hong Kong have informed me that the Kingsound King II is now for sale in place of the King, with the main difference being "the signal circuitry & power supplier of King II is separated from the sounding body". I've heard the King but not the King II, and have the option of buying either (I can get the King cheaper). Has anyone seen/heard both and able to comment on the differences?

Many thanks
Mark
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You're right, service/warranty is an issue but this again is available for me with both options.

I don't think the King II has been available for long so perhaps no-one has had a chance to hear it yet?

Mark
Yes, thank you, I've read both Ralph's and Doug's reviews of the King. Both are very informative, although I would like to think that the problems Ralph found were due to failing amp synergy, humidity or a uncommon defect. I've also read the previous Audiogon thread that both Ralph and Doug contributed to.

By the way, Ralph if you're reading - I would love to hear how you're getting on with the Prince II (and even the King II?). It doesn't look like you've written anything up yet?

Doug - can you tell me a bit more? I haven't heard Quads or Maggies but have gone straight for the Kingsounds because they have been described as having much more satisfactory bass. I heard the Prince II but this is a harder load than the King and I think it was limited by our amps being inadequate - the King was a huge improvement. I was assuming that the King II would have much the same character as the King but would perhaps be slightly "improved" in particular areas. Are you saying the differences are more fundamental?

My amps are M2 dual monoblocks made by Avondale, a small company in Chesterfield, UK. The nominal power rating is low (approx 90W) but they have large C-core transformers and two boards and sets of outputs in each unit, so they effectively bi-amp. They sounded sufficient for the Kings (but not the Prince II) in a evening demo, although I accept it often takes longer than that to get a full picture. We tried other pre/power valve amps but they sounded much too soft for my liking and I also think lacked sufficient power. My existing speakers are Dynaudio Confidence 5, which are also a notoriously difficult load but with the Avondale M2s they sound superb. Going back to the Dyns after the Kings, my main finding was that although the detail was still there, and they are definitely more attacking/punchy, they simply don't sound as real.

Mark
Doug, thank you very much for the additional info.

It's interesting that the key difference you found was a different panel construction, whereas Kings Audio emphasised to me that the crossover electronics are now separated off from the speaker in a separate box (each speaker has its own box that has two sets of speaker binding posts, the dc supply input and a switch).

I wonder also if there is any improvement in construction durability, although the feedback I've had from a UK distributor is of no serious problems with the King in the last 5 years but 1 in 10 needing their screws tightening.

You mention that the King II may be harder to drive now it is more similar to the Prince II, but perhaps the Prince II is harder just because it is smaller? We also found the Prince II didn't go as loud as the King.