Kimber 12tc incompatibility with ayre my-r twenty


I  am having a problem I have been trying to figure out for the last month . I think I have an answer now . I would like to know if anyone has had any similar experience .
i recently upgraded from an all parasound system with jc-1 , jc-2 , jc-3 to an all ayre stack with kx-r twenty , mx-r twenty, Qx-5 twenty, px-5 and cx-5. I retained all the kimber cables and speakers kef blade 2 speakers that I had.
The sound was phenomenal, so romantic so clean , amazing vocals , so powerful at the same time . I loved it, gave me goosebumps.
But the power amp would turn off to standby when I played it real loud .
i reached out to ayre. They have the best customer service in the entire audio business. Amazing group of people who love music and their products and stand behind their products. We tried a lot of trouble shooting and finally figured it was the kimber 12tc speaker cable as the culprit. With cheap Best Buy speaker cables the system functions flawlessly. They felt it had to do with high frequency oscillation or rf as the cables are not well shielded.
has anyone had similar experiences
I have reached out to kimber to get their input.
thank you .

newtoncr

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Thanks Al
the problem is the 30 ft length . That’s super long . John Atkinson reviewed it with cardas clear cable in his review on stereophile 
Yes they are pretty long. 30ft each side.
any recs on cables . The amps are freaking good . 
Thank you 
Al,
it kept tripping the dc offset protection on the mx-r twenty . High inductance explains everything. Any recommendations on cables that would suit my need . What about cardas Cygnus .
thank you in advance 
I talked with cardas , ayre, kimber  and kef .
kimber said this is a problem they have seen with many amps and that they can reconfigure their cable and custom make one with low capacitance. They told me about a carbon cable they are gonna introduce .
The  awesome guys from ayre called cardas themselves and talked to them  and explained the problem with the length and capacitance issue . Cardas recommended clear reflection internal biwired configuration 30 ft  as an ideal capacitance  load for the amp and tonal balance match for the blade 2 speaker.

Thats where I am will decide soon 
A great thank you to ayre for their customer support . If anyone wants to buy a product and know for sure you will have 💯 % support that’s ayre acoustics . Greatest company I have worked with . Gary is always available to help . 
Thanks everyone for your input and looking for more advice 
newton


I talked with cardas , ayre, kimber  and kef .
kimber said this is a problem they have seen with many amps and that they can reconfigure their cable and custom make one with low capacitance. They told me about a carbon cable they are gonna introduce .
The  awesome guys from ayre called cardas themselves and talked to them  and explained the problem with the length and capacitance issue . Cardas recommended clear reflection internal biwired configuration 30 ft  as an ideal capacitance  load for the amp and tonal balance match for the blade 2 speaker.

Thats where I am will decide soon 
A great thank you to ayre for their customer support . If anyone wants to buy a product and know for sure you will have 💯 % support that’s ayre acoustics . Greatest company I have worked with . Gary is always available to help . 
Thanks everyone for your input and looking for more advice 
newton


I purchased cardas clear reflection internal biwired interconnects . They work fine . Amp does not shut down . Still burning them in . But am liking what I am hearing so far. Also switched all kimber cable interconnects to cardas clear and subwoofer cable to cardas Cygnus interconnect. 
@stringreen . Can you tell me what you found that was disappointing about cardas and you liked about audioquest. I had quite the opposite opinion. The cardas seemed more,  for a lack of better word “romantic” to me through my stack. 

Yes totally agree 😊. Expensive hobby and everyone around you( family and work ) thinks there is something wrong with you lol . Everyone has their eye roll 🙄. Haha 
@adg@mike_in_nc
the placement is totally for aesthetic purposes 
the sound system is my formal living room and that doesn’t permit the amps to be placed next to the speakers 
after changing the cables now they are working and sounding great .