Killing BluRay, new Oppo BR 83


OK, I have been vocal on these forums with my opinion that BluRay is a short term media, and will not become the dominant media format. My reason:

1) There is not a mind blowing difference in BluRay quality
over the existing domintant format of DVD. That's not to say BluRay is not better, but it's not the difference between VHS and DVD, where you couldn't believe what you were seeing. Does it look and sound better, yes. Does it change your life, no. Especially with the quality of the upconverting DVD players available.

2) Given my first point, I don't think there is a big call to replace any purchased DVD's with BluRay. Any videophile who had a bunch of VHS tapes did that immeadiately with DVD, but why do it again? Basically the same disk, great sound, and small size, with excellent picture. I don't think that investment is going to be made again, and that means the market for BluRay discs is MUCH smaller for classic movies.

3) The advenet of internet based movie downloads is already available in HD. Granted, it's only 720 and no HD soundtracks, but does anyone believe that is not coming, and quickly. I love using my AppleTV to rent movies, never leave the house, and don't have to return. Honestly, I have bought a bunch of movies that way, since I have such a big network storage capacity. I think this will be the dominant AV format going forward, both movies and music. More high res video and music available faster. I believe that the rise in the market for outboard DAC's will become even greater, and they will have he ability to decode the new higher res music, and possible video soundtracks in surround. Output to analog preamps for Audiophile grade sound will become the norm for audiophiles, or hybrid HT/2 channel systems, as is becoming the norm.

I whole-heartedly believe this since recieving my new Oppo BluRay player. It is a great player, and it's the second BluRay I have had in my system so it just has re-inforced my previous hypothosis regarding the future of BluRay. Don't get me wrong, the player is STELLAR in every way. Considering the price, it's almost criminal especially on SACD and DVD-Audio (which I have not had any of the problems that the first firmware owners had). I have not gotten to use it as a CD transport yet, I am waiting on one of Paul G's (TubeAudioDesign) new DACs and the redbook CD sound on it's own was just OK.

That said, after watching several movies in both BluRay and DVD on the same player, the difference is just not that huge. It is better, but not enough to make me run out and buy any of those movies again on BluRay. It's the difference, to me, between the Magnepan 3.6 and 20.1. It's definitely better, but they are both excellent.

OK, those are my thoughts, FWIW.

I came to these conclusion
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Anyone have opinion on comparison of Pioneer Elite BDP-95FD against the Oppo BDP-83? Not only image quality but sound. I'm basically an all analog guy but it would be nice if the Oppo could serve for what few CDs and SACDs I own.
Albert, I have not compared but who cares really? Your not going to quit playing vinyl, and the SACD's don't sound as good as vinyl on the best rigs so.... Hey where are you in Texas, what a great rig, if it's Austin I could bring you some wine when I go on a road trip from Houston........

Not quite that close, I'm in Dallas but would be glad to share wine with you. I have a bunch of 2005 French that's excellent and I share with friends :^).

I need some kind of disc player. When I sold my McCormack UDP-1 Deluxe for the Pioneer Elite the image quality went up, although sound wise I took a hit. However, as you say I listen to LP and open reel tape for most of my music anyway.

The debate for me is between Oppo and Elite Pioneer. Before anyone says anything about price, I can get Elite for a screaming deal, so don't go by that criteria.

So should I stay with present Elite BDP-95FD, upgrade to new Elite BDP 09FD or switch over to Oppo BDP-83. The only criteria is best image from Blue Ray and DVD and best sound with Redbook.
I've now watched several Blue Ray movies on my Oppo BDP 83.

Super short review: Image quality is best I've seen, at least resolution wise. It's speedy at accepting and carrying out all commands. Negatives: Color is not as strong as my Pioneer Elite BDP-95FD and Oppo black levels are slightly washed out.

I read somewhere (here?) that there was an adjustment for black levels and such for the Oppo. So far I have not looked into that, but I've never adjusted anything on the Pioneer Elite either.

I did not listen to the movies through my full surround, so sound comments are limited to music only. With CD the sound is slightly analytical and lacking warmth and texture, also slightly forward compared to other CD players I've had, such as inexpensive Rotel, Elite BDP-95FD and McCormack UDP-1 Deluxe.

If I can get a deal on the new Pioneer Elite BDP-09FD, I'll probably sell both the Oppo BDP 83 and my current Elite BDP-95FD.