Kharma Mini or Avalon Eidolon diamond

Ctchen: give the Ayon Falcon S (€ 14.000,-) with very good tube amplification a listen. And then listen to Avalon Eidolon Vision (€ 25.000,-) with any electronics. You´ll never ever think about Avalon again. I swear it ;)
Avalon builds good speakers but MUCH to expensive (at least in Europe).
Can´t coment on the new Kharma Mini Exquisites although I know they are very well build and very nice to look at and their reputation is good although with € 30.000,- very expensive.

Toboo: interesting comment about the Opus vs. the 3.2. I found the Kharmas a bit bass shy and I have to follow Chucks comment: the Avalons present a much more holographic soundstage than the Kharmas. Detail retrieval is on par but the base line of the Opus is better as well as the ability to pin point.
Which cables and front end did you use during your comparison ?

Forget the Symbol´s - they´re crap. Avalon in my Opinion starts with Opus Ceramique.

Ctchen: yes I can a bit as I´m half dutch. I´ve listened to the Avalon line very extensively when I was in the market for new speakers. I know about their qualities and their shortcomings. I know of two people who use Ayre CX-7e + Series 5 amplification and they were quite happy until they´ve listened to my Opus Ceramique which are miles a head. One of them bought recently my Opus C, the other one upgraded to Ayon Audio as i did myself. Thats audio life. Once you hear sth. better you´re on the upgrade path.

Ctchen: forget to add: best value in speakers is Ayon Falcon S followed by Magnepan MG 3.6 R.