K-horn won't fit, any other corner speakers recommended for a big room?
I am dealing with two very small corners in a fairly large room that I want to fill with a very open and transparent sound. I currently have a set of VonSchweikert VR3's in the corners and they sound great on the bottom end, but are lacking the resolve that I am looking for on the top end. I would like something that is a little less laid back. As mentioned in the title, I would love to put in a set of Klipschorns but there is a window at each corner that will not allow a K-horn to fit without covering the window. This is a fairly big room (22 x 30 x9) with three walls of windows and large opening at the back of the room that goes to the kitchen. Due to WAF, the two corners on the 22' wall are the only locations that are acceptable and yes, my VR3's are about 20' apart. My listening zone is at about 24-25' away so it works out ok but soundstage and imaging does suffer because of this. My thoughts are that speakers that are meant to load off the corners of the room and aim towards the center (K-horn) is the correct path for me. In a perfect world, I would be able to enjoy them at 12' away as well as 24' away. Currently, my setup actually sounds better at 24'. Does anyone have suggestions for speakers that are meant to go into a corner or very close to corners? Ideally, I'd love to get a pair of Maggies because I have always loved them when set up correctly, but I don't know how I could make them work well within my constraints. One last comment, I still have small kids at home so the wife needs to stay in case that was Option 1. Anyone ever had this problem to deal with and did you ever solve it?
@speed005 did you ever make a move? @audiokinesis absolutely! I am a proud owner of 7pi corner horns, and I’ve never heard anything so relaxed and smooth, yet dynamic and punchy ant the same time (in my typical domestic settings) They put my floor to ceiling line (full range) arrays to shame in the way of “punch and drama”… The arrays do have their advantages though…just completely different.
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@speed005 , A system in that room will always be for background music. There is no way you will get anything close to acceptable performance in a room like that especially with that kind of speaker placement. Having said that you can stick any speaker you want in that location. If you want a system for serious listening you will have to work with another room in the house. |
@mijostyn , It's funny to read your comments and advice because you are dead on correct and that is exactly what I found to be true. Listening in that room turned out to be for background music and replacing the VSA VR3's with a pair of Canton Karat M80dc pulled out of the corners and some precise toe in did the trick. I think the MTM setup and the small baffle helped to get the dispersion wide enough and far enough to get the soundstage closer to what I was looking for in that room. I recently added a pair of passive subs to the room to help fill in for low level background listening and this helped a lot. I am currently building a new listening room in the basement for my critical listening system. I have a pair of Acoustic Zen Adagio's on deck for that room. I am also looking at a Bob Carver VTA20s tube amp to power them, used of course. I am not finding many customers with reviews of this amp. I'm not sure if it's because it was a budget friendly tube design or because it wasn't produced for very long or because of the Emotiva connection. Anyone have much experience with this amp? I'm looking to get into tubes and thought this may be a good entry level starter, but the lack of users has me concerned. |
@speed005 , It is not rocket science. After you have set up enough systems in crippled situations you get the hang of it. The Adagio are a great speaker. It is not easy to design transmission lines. However, they are not the most efficient speakers. You need more than 20 watts/ch. I would not run them with any less than 60 watts/ch. An amp that is Class A for the first 20-25 watts would be nice. The Pass XA25.8 would be nice. Used JC-1s might be overkill but the first 25 watts are magic. Atma- Sphere M 60s would be wonderful. Many AR amps would fit the bill. I would stay with well established companies in case service is required. |
