JVC MC1 Moving Coil Cartridge - Heritage?


I have one of these cartridges that I used for about 2 years(1980 - 1982). It has been stored since 1982. Does anyone know the history(design heritage(if any), how it was reviewed, good/bad qualities, value, etc.) of this cartridge? I believe it was a bit of a cult item when it was in production.
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To reduce the moving mass micro-circuit coils are used with very
weak signal wire connections. Those break very easy by soldering
''points''. As J. Carr suggested broken coils connections are not  reparable. The actual invention was to glue the stylus near the cantilever ''nose'' avoiding this way the influence of the cantilever. However  the genius Ikeda san invented ''cantileverless'' MC kinds
 in his series 9C cartridges. This is much better and ''simpler'' solution for the  involved problem with cantilevers. My first was Ikeda 9 C II but I  now own his (latest) REX of the same series which is in my opinion the best MC cart ever produced. Anyway the most dynamic and musical MC kind. 
My dear Slavic brother, The English have this curious saying:
"I am not rich to buy cheap stuff''. The suggestion is that ''good
stuff'' is never cheap. However you are always trying to prove
the opposite. I nearly got the impression that you are ''some
poor Russian'' in need for financial support. But your enumeration
of new gear that you have ''just'' bought is such that I think that you
must be at least in some close relation to Putin or Medvedev
who seems to be in the same hobby as we are. 
I posted my first JVC MC -1 to Axel because of those ''soldering
points'' I mentioned. Axel wrote to me that the ''thing'' was 
not reparable.  But I also own an functional sample but there
is no comparison with Ikeda Rex. The best ''direct drive'' there
is. I am not sufficient  brave to install this ART 1000 on any
of my headshells. Those coils on ''the outside'' look dangerous
and threatening to me.  



Dear chakster, Speaking about prices. For some unknown reason
a cart without box is cheaper and otherwise; with the original box
more expensive. You needed the JVC-MC 1 box for this reason
while my sample was ''without function'' because the cart was
defective. So I posted both to you because giving presents is a
joy . Anyway as assertion. However I was stunned by the posting
price. I had no idea that NATO sanctions against R. Federation 
have anything to do with post prices. Those should imply no
postage possibility to Russia at all. So you should not think that
I don't like you anymore because what I don't like are postage
prices to Russia. Even enjoyable 
Dear chakster, I made an big mistake by description of the ''direct
drive'' technology.  The coil circuit is glued behind the stylus 
while the signal wire from the coils are glued on the cantilever in
the opposite direction. This way two objectives are reached:
reduction of the moving (parts) mass and avoidance of the cantilever
influence. This is actually ''micro technology''. To get access to
the coil (wire) in order to (re) solder the wire ''soldering point'' 
the whole cantilever/coil construction must be removed. In my
opinion impossible task. 
BTW Yamaha also used ''printed circuit'' coils for their MC-1 S 
model. They claimed the lowest (moving) mass for this cart
in conjunction with the ''fastest reaction'' to the record signal.
But I can't remember that anybody in our forum even mentioned
this cart. So those who think that there ''must be one single cause''
which explains the ''quality'' of an cart and refer either to the
''motor'' or the cantilever material or the stylus shape are  starting
with the wrong proposition or premise. If the premise is not true
than deduced statements from the premise must also be not
true.





Dear Lew, Part of this problem is (simple) grammar with ''subject
connective and predicate'' which is focused on description of
objects. This kind of sentences is not suitable for description of
relations. Say, ''brother'' whom I address regular in this forum
is not about some properties but a marking of an family relation
''place''. We all have assertions about what a ''good brother''
means but differente cultures may have different ''places'' in
the family row or order for brother. One of my Dutch friends
visited my beloved Serbia and say to me: ''you have greetings
from your brother in Serbia''. He was very confused when I said
to him: ''I have no brother''. But then I realized that brother in
Holland does not mean the same as in Serbia. In Holland there
is ''mom ,dad and kids'' so those kids are brothers and sisters.
In Serbia the family relations are much brother because ''family''
includes much more people . So we lack the expression ''cousin''
or ''nephew'' but use ''brother from uncle or aunt side'' instead.
This btw was the reason for Frege to construct ''scientific language''
because ordinary language was not sufficient precise.
Dear chakster, My remarks are about MC-1 not MC-L10 which I never owned. The problem according to me is the connection
between printed circuit coils and signal wire which are glued on
the cantilever to be further connected to the pin connectors.
Those wire are very thin and consequently  very vulnerable.
So there two weak points involved. The (soldering) connection
to the circuit and the breking possibility of the output wire.
Despite its low price the danger that one of those ''points'' will
collapse is pretty obvious. I assume that you know what kind
of frustration this causes irrespective of the cart price.
I hope you will at last try your Ikeda 9 C3 and compare the
involved technology as well as the sound.

Dear chakster, Dertonarm was the first who advised me to
get those FR-7 kinds with low impedance FR SUT's. My
problem was the assumption that one needs different SUT's
for different carts impedance. I own many MC's with different
impedance  but I was reluctant to collect SUT's next to the
carts. His theory was/is that not only impedance but also
inductance need to  ''correspond' with each other. I give up
because of the involved complexity or, to put this otherwise,
my technical inability to deal with the issue. But after some
time I discovered Denon S1 SUT which can be used for all
MC carts irrespective of their impedance. I see by your Luxman
8000 + 8025 proposition the same possibility as by Denon S1.
But ''your Luxman 8000'' has also additional transformers 8020
and 8030 which are in accordance with  say, ''the old theory''. 
8020 for low impedances and 8030 for high impedances. 
If one has no idea about which theory is ''true'' one should
of course choose this possibility. The most of my MC carts are
low impedance but I also own some very good carts (Benz LP
and Magic Diamond) which are 40 Ohms. So if I can get this
''combo'' of 8000+ 8020 + 8030 I can't go wrong?
I had no idea to have an twin brother. They seem to chose the
same things independent from each other. My ''darlings'' are
FR7-fz, Ikeda's 9 REX, Kiseki Blackheart (nearest to Lapis
Lazuli) + an good working JVC MC1. We have never seen each
other in person nor consulted each other about anything. At last
some prove for Kant's ''transcendental stuff''.