Tried the f110(not enough) and the f112 (enough). Friend had a Velodyne Optimum 12 and brought it over. A/B'd the two and the Velodyne actually sounded tighter and more powerfull. Have since returned f112 and purchased Optimum 12. Saved almost $2,000. I strongly suggest you find a shop that will let you demo numerous subwoofers before purchase. All rooms have different acoustics. JL is very good but in my belief it is overpriced.
