Jim Gordon has Passed On...


He was never released from custody after murdering his mother. He'll be remembered best for being the drummer with Derek and the Dominos, but he played with the Byrds, Beach Boys and others. I know that you're wearing black today @bdp24. Sad ending. 

roxy54

Yes, I’m a big fan of Mitch myself! I have the 60s lm400 as well. 
And a variety of vintage A and K Zildjians.

I should have clarified, my Camcos are the darker wood finish (walnut?), and look just like the ones on the Derek and the Dominos footage. 

 

@atlantadrumguy: The reason 24" Los Angeles-era Camco’s are more common than Oaklawn (Illinois) and Canute (Kansas)-era 24’s is that LA-era drumsets were made in the 1970’s, when 24’s were coming into favour by Rock drummers like Mitch Mitchell, Carmine Appice, John Bonham (on the first USA tour; he shortly thereafter played 26’s exclusively), Johnny Barbata (a fabulous drummer. The Turtles, CSN & Y, Jefferson Airplane and Starship, L.A. studios), and Dino Danelli (The Young Rascals).

24" kick drums had been favoured by Big Band drummers for years, players like Buddy Rich and Louie Bellson. I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the Rock drummers who started playing 24’s were all very Jazz-influenced. By the way, Buddy particularly liked the playing of Barbata, following his career. Give a listen to his playing on The Turtles "Elenore", "Happy Together", and "She’d Rather Be With Me". Fantastic! Buddy also approved of the playing of Bobby Colomby (early-Blood, Sweat, & Tears).

By the way, my AudiogoN handle includes "24" in honor of my love of that size bass drum. Drummers (at least those with knowledge of vintage drums) will know what "bdp" is used in honor of.

 

 

An afterthought:

What I especially love in the playing of Jim Gordon and Johnny Barbata is---in addition to being very tasteful and musical, their drum parts being played in service to the song---the element of intelligence. Smart drumming? Yes, exactly. I can’t define what that is, but I know it when I hear it. I don’t think it’s a secret that the drummer is commonly the least intelligent musician in a band.

 

 

Here’s what a 24" (by 14" deep) kick with 13 x 9 and 16 x 16 toms looks like. The (southpaw) drummer is playing a set of early-70’s Slingerland drums (love the dual set of bass drums spurs, standard on 24" Slingerlands), with a 14 x 6-1/2"  chrome-over-brass Ludwig snare drum. Bonham’s first Ludwig set with a 24 was finished in green sparkle, and he always played a 14 x 6-1/2" metal (or amber Vistalite) Ludwig snare drum.

 

https://youtu.be/idUFG9RPswg?si=GRpNVxZcrFg0IXj8

 

For you fans of instrumental bands, this drummer replaced the band’s former drummer (Pete Curry), who left to join Los Straitjackets (but on bass, not drums).

 

@bdp24 

When you got Jim’s old kit, were there any Zildjians laying up there? Always wondered if he used a mix of A’s and K’s. Guessing mainly Avedis. I’m a major cymbal fan as well. :)