Jeff Rowland


I recently replaced my Parasound A21 with a JR M525. It has taken my system to new levels: soundstaging, spacing between instruments, tonality, and a natural midrange. The M525 is the first amp I've ever owned that presents a 3 dimensional soundstage. All that being said, now I wonder what improvements going from the M525 to the JR S2 integrated or bridged M525s will yield? Is it a night and day difference? Are bridged M525 better than the S2? My system: Aerial 7Ts, PS Audio DirectStream DAC, Bryston BDP-2, and all Wireworld Silver 7 cables.
ricred1

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Al is right (as usual). This amp most likely uses PASCAL S-PRO2 class D modules. Data sheet shows minimum load of 2 ohms or 4 ohms when bridged. Bridging might create problems with your speakers gaining only about 20% of loudness. Not worth trying IMHO.

http://www.pascal-audio.com/downloads/S-PRO2_Datasheet-1_20.pdf
Ricred1, I stated 22% loudness increase, but it would be true for 2x loudness. I forgot that bridging doubles the output voltage, thus quadruples the power. In such case you can count on (substantial) 49% loudness increase. Speaker's minimum impedance remains the problem.

L=k^(1/3.5) where L=loudness, k=ratio of power.

L=4^(1/3.5)=1.49
Ricred1, I found them very eager to help. Perhaps it was just the particular support person. Fortunately we have this forum to learn and share
Bombaywalla, You are right - not many amps quadruples or
even doubles power exactly. I don't even care for the one
that does, since in order for this to happen amp has to have
hefty power supply but also lots of negative feedback.

On the other hand listed power specification is useful only
if you listen to sinewaves. Music demands very little power
on average, since half of the loudness is 10% of the power
and music has gaps. Heavy orchestral pieces might demand
more power but Jazz trio needs very little. Maximum current
is perhaps more important. Power specifications are very
vague. It can be FTC, EIA, CEA or no standard at all. FTC
defines amplifier's power when both channels are driven over
full audio band 20Hz-20kHz for 5 minutes after one hour
preheat at 1/3 of power and meeting listed distortions. EIA
requires test at 1kHz and 1% THD without preheat for one
channel only (not sure how long). CEA test requires 5
minutes at full power at 1kHz without preheat, while other
channel is driven at 1/8 of max power (why 1/8 ???). Most
of class D amps would not even pass FTC test, having very
limited power at high frequencies. The only class D modules
manufacturer I know that specifies full power bandwidth is
PASCAL but it is useless anyway since music demands very
little power at high frequencies, not to mention size of the
tweeters. Most of manufacturers don't even specify what
standard, if any, they use for testing. For instance
Icepower module in my 200W Rowland model 102 is specified at
only 55W FTC power limited to 0-8kHz with explanation
"The power bandwidth is limited due to the output Zobel
network". Continuous module power is listed in
datasheet as only 40W @ 25degC and 25W @ 50degC. Bel Canto
specified S300 and M300 amplifiers as 300W with the same
Icepower module (200ASC). These modules can produce
momentary power of 290W at 10% distortion and only at 230V
supply. Useless specification but 300W looks better than
200W on the paper.