Jazz vocalists recorded wonderfully
Stacey Kent, Irene Kral Irene Kral, yeah now we’re talking, I just can not hear much studio tinkers going on,, really straight up vocals, clean, and natural For Stacey Kent I like her voice, but not the style of this remake composition. Seems to miss the magic of the original arrangment of Astrud.Gilberto master.. But sure, her voice comes across really natural. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZV2ySXezEU |
Think about it, Folk artists/singers all around the world, past 5 K years,, could not rely on modern electric gadgets to help bolster, fortify, embellish vocals which would then attract bigger crowds,, Stardom was not their goal. Either the folk singer could sing or else he might have been booed and reduced to only playing his instrument and having others sing their tunes. Thats my point here, how far should modern artists go inorder to achieve some ideal set by industry executives, for financial gains. I have no issues now that i've heard Sophie Milman's wonderful talents from the studio, its charming and thus fogivable on any modifications. Same feelings I have for Jacintha, excusable if mod gadgets played a role in the recording. She has gifts and so her creativeity outshines any mods which may have accentuated her liquid voice. How far should we allow artists to employ mod gadgets inorder to grab better out attention, our interest. ?? Less is best. |
Stacey Kent Fine clean, pure voice, for sure,, But the emotive energy,,seems to be a bit thin. I mean she does not have to come across as say janis Joplin,, but would be nice to have more feeling expressiveness. I know on some of her cuts , you and the jazz community no doubt feel the same. A bit lethargic, if not sterile. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gz1zBKoTCf4 |
I dont ask a singer what she dont have.... :) i like her for what she have and if it is good i keep her.... Comparing any jazz singer to Janis Joplin is not fair .... :) Agree Janis was really real/not for real. Sure she suffered the feelings and comes out in her voice,,But ya know as with that culture, drugs really gavea nice boost to her natural talents, = Disqualifed , **I don't as, what she does'nt have...* So like I am surfing YT for something,,and up pops Diana Krall , the Paris Concert. So I figured let me give Diana another shot, maybe I picked one her slowest songs yesterday. Look, she may have talents,, but I am not interested. The band is wayyy too large, had she a 5 piece band, bass, guitar, drums, horn and 1 other member, maybe percussion, or another brass and Diana's piano,, I would show more interest,, But this orch she has with her, isn't doing me no favors to come around to her concert. Nah, both her cds on my shelf, have to go,, Either Goodwill Donate,, or trash can. Probably the 2nd option. Diana is just too commercialized for my taste. I know this post belongs over on that other topic, bashing overly modded studio voicing. I really wanted to keep this topic all positive, For Real. I will take a look at your recommend list today. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQuDaIbpA1g |
i agree about Diana Krall.... by the way.... And i dont want to bash her, she is good, but i look for other than only good
Yes here I have some understanding about what i am trying to say over at my other topic... Some are bashing my opinions,, *I must have some hidden agenda*,, which if I made my point obscure,, let me be clear-ER, + Modern electronic gadgets have falisfied, made fake , some singers vocals abilities Thats obvious,,who can deny. Krall like every singer in mmod times has some support in the studio,, main point is our computers have allowed this fake , this sham to keep us all fooled. Thats my point, Diana Krall has talents,, Not to the degree the critics claim, nor in reality. Her Paris show was a bore, Just admit it. The orch is wayyy to gawky for my taste. = Not true jazz, = some fake modern pop crap. |
Geniuses know no borders.... My collection is classical, but not much pre 1900. You might like the super high genius (equal to Einstein as far as music, spiritual ideas go) of Alfred Schnittke. I have all his music, Also note Elliott Carter, Allan Pettersson(love all his syms minus 2 and 16), and how could i forget the super genius of Hans HENZE, have all his music, Astonishing. |
Geniuses know no borders....
Great post, I Like your sense of honest and humor. Art is art, one should not so rush to judge I watched a travel show many years ago, british traveler, showing us Kazakistan. Beautiful but very rough climate to etch out a bare living,, at the very end of his show, sucha shame he did not devote at least another minute or 2 of this young Kazak tribal folk singer playing her small guitar stype instrument. Just incredible,, I would buy all her cds IF avaliable,,I serached forever looking for Kazak folk singers,,but nothing near what magic this gal sang out. Think about how much folk muisc has been wonderfully performed in mountainous regions north of Indian, all eastern russia. Never recorded, sadly, regretfully, we will never have the pleasure to be swooned by these magical folk stars. But so, yeah, should we give so much credit to modern artsist who rely too much on voice mods via high tech gadgets? My wife tells me do not touch her Diana Krall cds,,even thuogh she never listens to them, **I like Diana Krall*, My vote is immaterial. The public decides the vote. |
Then i will vouch for my own Gods : Scriabin and Sorabji... But anyway all geniuses are brothers, only idiots hate....
Might be brothers as far as musical understanding goes, But I do in fact hate quite a few of the romantic composers, #1 hate goes to all Ludwig Von Beethoven. I hate hiis muisc more than anyone who ever lived. More than Debussy and Ravel hated Beethoven's music... That hate extends to all his students as well, Brahms, Shumann, Scubert, Dvorak etc etc, Yes I can hear the greatness in Brahms,, , I can appreciate Brahms,but I own no cds, and have no interest ever listening to anything Brahms. So yeah I hate his muisc as well, Mahler/Bruckner, hate the muisc from those 2 genius composers. I really hate Mahler's muisc, Bruckner I can barely stand, but not represented in my now closed cd collection. Chopin I have zero interest, I have Scriabin's piano muisc, who needs the outdated Chopin salon muisc?? ,I only recently awoke to his piano muisc just some years ago, Safronitsky please on piano, Really nice neo romantic works, His orchestral, not interested. Do not care for his orchestral. Just heard a bit of Ostad Elahi, I much perfer Ravi Shankar. |
half truths are worst than lies.....
Indeed, a full lie, one might easily detect,, half truths leaves one wondering = much worse. I love all music from Schnoenberg, early neo romantic and late atonal master works. I say Scriabin is neo/post romantic, as his piano works are a blend of early and a hint of future ideas. I love hsi piano scores and took me by surprise,, I needed to mature to come around to his works. My choices are not sealed. At the start of my classical interest, I loved Sibelius,, now only his Kullervo and maybe his folk poems are what i can listen to. His syms, VC is now all gone from my collection,,, I havea huge box of cds that i want to bring to tulane U Music Library, maybe Lenny can give me $2-$3 for each cd. I am cleaning house of classical I have no more interest in. My 12-15 fav composers are now final, I will not add other composers to my collection. = Done deal, Mind shut and closed forever. Boulez piano cd has to go. Stockhausen never made the cut, = cd money i spent better elsewhere,, like complete Hans Henze. I am happy with my ohhh, 250-300 cd collection. about 50 cds are boxed ready to dump cheap. |
