Jazz for aficionados
I found something that was very interesting in regard to the subject being discussed; no, it does not support my position, as a matter of fact, I don't know what position it supports, but I think we should investigate it "together". https://www.npr.org/sections/ablogsupreme/2015/12/21/460527087/the-2015-npr-music-jazz-critics-poll |
Acman, that was written by a guy named "Gunther Schuller" and anybody whose first name is "Gunther", is suspect from the "git-go" when writing about something he says was developed by African Americans. His jazz is kind of like "Jambalya", just throw something in a pot and call it jam-bo-lya. Anytime someone throws Charles (Bird) Parker in with a bunch of other dudes, without acknowledging the significance he had on modern jazz and modern music has not a clue as to what this music became after "Bird". But you Acman, my friend and fellow aficionado, has by your submissions, given an indication that you can hear where I'm coming from. Almost every picture you see of "Bird", he has a soft smile on his face; that's not a smile; that's a smirk, it says "I'd like to see you copy this". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmRkZeGFONg&list=PLqzxGGRskMsArMdq06cOawHAbO2kBWfmD&index=2&... Some can, some can not hear the genius of Charles Parker, but it's for certain that no one can copy the genius of the man we call "Bird". |
I put this on our current page so that we can refer to it from time to time. https://www.npr.org/sections/ablogsupreme/2015/12/21/460527087/the-2015-npr-music-jazz-critics-poll |
"Drummer Buddy Rich, whose quicksilver, frenetic technique earned him the accolade “fastest hands in the world,” died Thursday after suffering a seizure at a Bel-Air residence where he was recuperating from brain surgery. He was 69." Maybe he was born with a tiny brain tumor that grew; his behavior was always erratic. |
I found something in "Vocals" on the jazz critics page; Charenee Wade, Offering: The Music of Gil Scott-Heron and Brian Jackson. Acman pointed me in that direction and I like it a lot; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMGME3Bvy9Y Gil Scott was an idealist who made social commentary in a style that is now called "Rap", but I'm sure he wouldn't want to be called the first rapper. "Rap" is totally disgusting when compared to Gil Scott's social commentary; Rap is low life, but it is what it is, it's what life is about when you sell dope, rap or starve; look at Detroit, Cleveland, and a host of other cities. That's what life is about when all the jobs are shipped out to another country. Gil Scott was before the working man had come to that state. He was about preventing what we see now. While some were left behind during his time, the "American Dream" was still alive and well; Detroit, Chicago, (even the South Side) and a host of other cities were great places to live; this was in the late 60's and early 70's. There is a song that paints a picture of a young working man's heaven, it's called "Summer Breeze"; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T88fbHOmvRk See the curtains hangin' in the window In the evening on a Friday night A little light a-shinin' through the window Lets me know everything's all right Summer breeze makes me feel fine Blowin' through the jasmine in my mind Summer breeze makes me feel fine Blowin' though the jasmine in my mind See the paper layin' on the sidewalk A little music from the house next door So I walk on up to the doorstep Through the screen and across the floor If that same young man was living in that same house, he would be living in an uninhabitable crime ridden, dope driven neighborhood; that's what it is today. |
Ahmad Jamal now makes his home in Marseille; speaking of live music, my budget will not allow me to fly to France. (when are the French going to learn how to spell; that's pronounced "Marsay".) Anyway, he's made a bundle off "Poinciana". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ev-3kIXlEGA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cytUz9KkK9M |
I can see right now that people who live in and around New York City, have absolutely no idea what the rest of the country is like. Once upon a time there were cities that had lots of nightclubs that entertained people, cities like Detroit, Cleveland, St. Louis, and the South Side of Chicago, which was a city unto itself with lots of jazz clubs that no longer exists; while the other half of Chicago is thriving (at least it was the last time I was there) the South Side for the most part no longer exists. There was nothing I liked better than going to clubs in St. Louis when they existed. It's a daytime tourist thing now in order to still claim that it's a city; you want to go to the zoo or see the arch? Pjw, I never said anything about "new jazz musicians"; I said "new jazz"; there is a difference. Buddy Rich was my favorite drummer, and everybody else's favorite drummer in high school, but my tastes have evolved. "Frankly speaking, how any so called jazz aficionado, could put up a post that subtly or indirectly suggests that Buddy Rich was a sub par jazz musician/drummer is absurd." Who dat say dat, not me? there exists absolutely 0 good jazz artists today because their "ears" tell them so, what do you think their reply would be ??? Again, who dat say dat? I'm looking for "new jazz music"; could you post some? |
Frogman, I have asked you time and time again for some new jazz, and what you have presented doesn't qualify to my ears, and they make the final decision. The reason for this poll thing is to find something new, and as close as I can come is Charenee wade; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FMaP3hlm9E Let me give you examples of what I called new when it came out in chronological order: Alice Coltrane; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQtEFdyhgdE Don Cherry was new; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tp5mZxkeV1c Chico Freeman "The Kings of Mali" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buFUP2LvK2s I am so sick of that same old boring "stereotypical" toot toot jazz I could scream. |
Pjw, it's funny you should mention that LP by "The Messengers"; it's playing right now and I hear Bobby Timmons, Lee Morgan, Bennie Golson, and Jymie Merrit a lot more than I hear Blakey; you tell me what you hear. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teF-8IqFIh4 |
BTW, I have music from the computer in the basement coming to the bedroom, so if I don't know who's playing, I have to get out of bed and go check. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrWs0lSZvBQ This impressed me enough to get up to verify my suspicions. Wardell Gray ballads are harder to find than Wardell "Be-Bop" Lucky Thompson was also sounding good, but can't find it on the tube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkKneiZNNXs Oh yes, "Elanor Rigby" by Chick Corea qualifies as "new music" for me because it sounds good, and it's different from everybody else's. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxfi0g_5CiM&list=RDbxfi0g_5CiM&start_radio=1&t=10 My world, my definitions. |
Keegiam, for knowing what's happening, I'm going to play for you, a little "Saigon Phunk"; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryU4UL9E0Fo |
Like you said Rok, so much depends on WHEN in the discussion of jazz. I recall when I was taking the last train from St. Louis to Lackland AFB San Antonio Texas, and it was about the same time Moody came out with "Last Train From Overbrook". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2j3ImSF7m4&list=RDJ2j3ImSF7m4&start_radio=1 This is beautiful music that projects the feeling of actually being on a train; I could hear this music playing in my head on the train ride all the way into San Antonio. |
Pjw, I really liked that "Art Pepper Unrealeased". All of those musicians sounded like they should have been famous, but the only one I knew was Art. I was in LA club hopping about the time this was recorded, and I heard a lot of artists who sounded like they should have been famous. I discovered there's a big reason for that, they didn't have to leave LA in order to make a good living, and in order to be famous as a jazz musician, you had to hit the road. That album is on order. |
Acman, that was different, and I liked the title. The last time I was in Chicago, I stayed at the Holiday Inn on North Shore Drive, where Ahmad was appearing; he was fantastic as usual. I didn't even go to the Southside, didn't feel like crying. No that was not the "stereotypical" Toot, Toot; keep em coming. |
This post is for the Clifford Brown fans. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nt_fmhtePoc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPRCH0Qomw4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mVklx4DlnoU |
Speaking of Billy Root, I’ve got this Benny Green record with both Gene Ammons and Billy Root as sidemen, but I can’t tell Root from Ammons; maybe Frogman can help us? Yo Frogman, can you help us? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZyFKfPyi6Q |
Rok, I'm listening to Carmen, and I think you got the worst record she ever recorded. On the records I have, her voice is seductive, and she's beautiful; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SAq1Lg5Aak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4qnyaZQELxk She's singing those songs for me when she was looking her best. I have no problem in doing all kinds of magical time shifts when I'm listening to Carmen. |
I have a case of the "deep blue funk", and my doctor, Dr. Feelgood, recommended a triple dose of Jimmy Smith's smoking organ, we'll see how that works; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YpKGKF7_XY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYuqKiKJY_U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcZyQShweto |
Rok, I bet that if I applied, I could get in the Guinness Book of world records for the person who has heard the most groups and versions of "Nica's Dream", and without a doubt, that was the best I have ever heard. Dee Dee and her band put everything they had into that performance; she put so much emotion into it that I heard and felt the essence of "Nica's Dream." |
I would like to take that dress for a long ride in that car along Lake Shore Drive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC80DiAsN_c (look up, don't look at that bumper in front of the car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMakL3L2r-M That's one thing that gets more beautiful every year; North Shore Drive, or locally known as "The Gold Coast" because that's what it takes to live there; it was beautiful when I was a teenager, and it's still beautiful. I have photos in my album that I took at night of the Chicago Skyline along the lake, that are much more beautiful than anything I could find on "you tube". |
Today I'm enjoying a wide range of beautiful music that you might be familiar with Frogman. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu574XH3_Vg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLsg_Lk819s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLsg_Lk819s |
Hey Rok, I bet you haven't heard this "Nica's Dream"; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8Bd7UIJlPQ&list=OLAK5uy_kytgnI-F3NxBRZevCNR9D9Aeh1zotdWWU&i... |
