Before the information age that we are living in now, when we didn't always know what the artists we were listening to looked like, I thought Buddy Collette was White, that's because his music always sounded white, and that went on for many years.
His good friend Mingus even said Buddy's music sounded White, that confirmed there was nothing wrong with my ears.
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Since my jazz selections don't seem to be pleasing anyone, it's time for my jaunt to faraway places with strange sounding names and people to match; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY01irEl8EoUSTAD NUSRAT FATEH ALI KHAN, I dare you to try and top that name. You go Nusrat. |
When Sheila E is playing, who cares about the music; what music?
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Another Trane to add to my shopping list.
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When Roland Kirk first came on the scene we thought he was just an oddity who played more than one horn at at a time, little did we know he was a jazz genius; you can't have too much of his music. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haTHXTssfJg |
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You know it's a funny thing that everybody is playing with the word "Soul" since Dave Brubeck, but I don't care how you flip it, you can not connect the word soul with Dave Brubeck's music; that's not a bad thing, just a fact. Here we have the word used again, and we can hear it; you can not connect the word with the music unless somehow you can hear it; if you think it's applicable to Dave's music, that's fine with me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJPqM3xHEi8 |
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According to Joshua Redman, what people have called jazz over the years has changed so much. I definitely don't define jazz as a style or set of styles, because the stylistic components of it will always be changing. I don't know whether you agree Joe (Joe Lovano) but there are certain things like swing, that are crucial components of jazz and almost anything I would call jazz has something of that. The improvisational attitude, bringing your life experienceto the music, that is the key thing, not the stylistic elements.
What Joshua said sounds pretty good to me, but I'm not in the defining business, I'm a listener, and when I listen to current music called jazz, it just don't cut it. No longer am I going to listen and try to make sense out of it, I don't have that much time. While there are exceptions to that, they are too few and far in between for me to bother.
Recently, almost every day, someone is posting old jazz that's new to me, and it sounds like my kind of music; consequently, I am not going to waste another minute or peso investing in "new jazz", case closed.
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Rok, this Bud is for you. As you know, I'm not a true blue Blues fan, but this guy caught my attention today; "Johnny Guitar Watson"; although I've heard the name before, this is the first time I listened to his music, and I like it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PFA9dP967tsIt's reminiscent of "Al Green". |
Rok, Blues or Funk, the man made some good music that I missed out on; all of the music in the past is so much better than what's currently passing for music, that my decisions are getting easier everyday.
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nsp. Sonny Criss is still new to me, that's because I've been listening to East Coast all my life, and West coast has an entirely different approach to the music, that makes it new.
Sonny Red with Blue Mitchel and Grant Green is nice.
Shirley Scott and Lockjaw are always a good listen. None of those albums are in my collection, maybe that's where I need to start.
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Pryso, for the most part Bill Evans is too introspective for me, but I liked the way he played with Miles and just about everybody else; he made they're music sound better.
Is it improvisation or total chaos? That's the question that pops up lately. I've been hearing chaos that supposed to be improvisation.
While Rok stated "modern jazz", I think he meant "most current" as of yesterday; there is a difference between chaos and improvisation.
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Alex, what I have been stating for sometime now is that the music is a reflection of "current society", and you can simply look at all the big cities in this USA and see how flawed they are, and this is what current music is reflecting. There is absolutely no concern for humanity, only money, and the politicians see that it all goes to the richest 1%, minus they're commission.
I know this is completely off point for what you're saying, but that doesn't matter, it still exists, (flawed society from the top down) and nothing will change it. Most people who enjoy music, are trying to get as much pleasure out of their collection as they can, including me, but I can't stop thinking about how it came to be or what's coming next.
Like it or not, currently, what's passing for improvisation is total chaos without much musical content.
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Rok, what you pointed out as a crime happened so often that it's not worthy of discussion.
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Rok, as you know, this thread has never been limited, post whatever you like, although I've never seen Country and Western; or are they two different types of music?
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Alex, when the vast majority of people who like widely differing genres of music, besides jazz are saying the same thing, it's time to listen. I don't know for how long now, but "all" genres of music have become crap. I hear this same thing on other forums; while it's for sure I'm not an expert on Country and Western, they seem to be saying the same thing as I am about jazz, the more recent, the worse the music is.
If I notice the same thing over and over, there must be something to it; the more current the music, the more it sucks, and that goes for all genres.
Regardless what we are saying, none of us are coming up with good examples of current music; as hard as Acman is trying, his current music is a flop, but he still posts very good music that's not so current.
While I am not the judge of what is and what is not, my judgments seem to blow in the direction of the prevailing winds, and after all the talk, the music you post seems to back me up.
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yippi yi yo yippi yippi yi yay, ghost riders in the sky. Preciate that Rok, I knew I could count on you.
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Acman, according to these reviews, Matthew Shipp makes good music; when are you going to post some of his best?
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A word is defined by how it is used, the word "soul" as used in jazz, is almost sacred. It's used to describe the sound of the very few who project it. The sound of soul can be projected in song or instrumental music. When you hear it, the sound resonates within the depths of your being. No need to understand the language, people from around the world experience the same profound emotions when they lose the love of a lifetime, and they instinctively know when such an event is projected through song or instrumental music. Ray Charles, "The Sun Died"; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpR8UrMQvnUThe words don't tell the story half as much as the sound of Ray Charles voice. "The Sun Died"; there is no life without the Sun. Yesterday, he was in paradise gazing into her beautiful eyes. Bobby Timmons is the unspoken master of instrumental soul; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNjRQo-zpKA&list=RDEMwn1l3d6X9Dhg9J52Gz5zMg&start_radio=1That piano and the music says it all; each note makes a profound statement about down and out, and unable to do anything about it, except "Moan". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNjRQo-zpKA&list=RDEMwn1l3d6X9Dhg9J52Gz5zMg&start_radio=1This song projects someone who is too tired to walk, but for whatever reason he has to keep going. |
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Acman, I missed something, I only read reviews, could you please post the music again.
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Alex I'm going to give each one of those cuts a long listen and get back to you.
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It doesn't matter whether it's an objective call or a subjective call; a right call or a wrong call, there is just too much good old jazz, that's conducive to my sense of taste and hearing, that's out there, for me to spend any more money on new jazz. Everything that Alex posted needs to be in my collection; I wont be trying to sell it the next day. Alex, all Junior Mance needs is Ray Charles; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3617vhFr_lY |
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All afternoon I've been listening to some of my best jazz on old LP's that I hardly played before, and I made an amazing discovery; Santana who is not considered jazz, has some boss jazz on his "Welcome " album; here is some of Flora Purim's best work; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QD8-A_bgsg8 |
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Charlie Parker's sax is the only one I can distinguish with one note.
It has been said that a loud clap of thunder could be heard when he died.
"Bird still lives."
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Lucky Thompson is an artist I've been listening to a lot lately. He was an American jazz tenor and soprano saxophonist. While John Coltrane usually receives the most credit for bringing the soprano saxophone out of obsolescence in the early 1960s, Thompson (along with Steve Lacy) embraced the instrument earlier than Coltrane. (that's something I didn't know) Thompson was born in Columbia, South Carolina, and moved to Detroit, Michigan, during his childhood. Thompson had to raise his siblings after his mother died, and he practiced saxophone fingerings on a broom handle before acquiring his first instrument. He worked in rhythm and blues and then established a career in bebop and hard bop, working with Kenny Clarke, Miles Davis, Gillespie and Milt Jackson. Ben Ratliff notes that Thompson "connected the swing era to the more cerebral and complex bebop style. His sophisticated, harmonically abstract approach to the tenor saxophone built off that of Don Byas and Coleman Hawkins; he played with beboppers, but resisted Charlie Parker's pervasive influence. He showed these capabilities as sideman on many albums recorded during the mid-1950s, such as Stan Kenton's Cuban Fire!, and those under his own name. He recorded with Parker (on two Los Angeles Dial Records sessions) and on Miles Davis's hard bop Walkin' (which was outstanding) Thompson recorded albums as leader for ABC Paramount and Prestige and as a sideman on records for Savoy Records with Jackson as leader. Thompson was strongly critical of the music business, later describing promoters, music producers and record companies as "parasites" or "vultures". This, in part, led him to move to Paris, where he lived and made several recordings between 1957 and 1962. During this time, he began playing soprano saxophone. Thompson returned to New York, then lived in Lausanne, Switzerland, from 1968 until 1970, and recorded several albums there including A Lucky Songbook in Europe. He taught at Dartmouth College in 1973 and 1974, then completely left the music business.[1] In his last years he lived in Seattle, Washington. Acquaintances reported that Thompson was homeless by the early 1990s, and lived as a hermit. Thompson died from Alzheimer's disease in an assisted living facility on July 30, 2005. Discography Accent On Tenor Saxophone (Urania, 1954; reissued by Fresh Sound) Tricotism (Impulse, 1956) Brown Rose (Xanadu, 1956) Lord, Lord, Am I Ever Gonna Know? (Candid, 1961) Lucky Thompson Plays Jerome Kern and No More (Moodsville, 1963) Lucky Strikes (Prestige, 1964) Lucky Thompson Plays Happy Days Are Here Again (Prestige, 1965) I have 3 of his albums, but I will have to acquire more; as can be heard here, he plays with "Deep Passion", the kind of music I can listen to non stop. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAxzwnfeXEM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XrhG2956UoThat sax is so smooth and mellow. |
This is one of my all time favorite albums as well as favorite tunes; the title is most appropriate, they have been told that Ike has terminal cancer. Everyone has a "Heavy Soul", and you can hear it in the music; especially Freddie Roach's organ. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwc1bTn7Fd8 |
Thanks nsp, I'll add those to my collection.
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However, I always say that any plan is better than no plan at all.
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Yes Mary-Jo, you can sense it in his music, you are fortunate to be able to hear and appreciate that quality in his playing.
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This is absolutely the best time to be a jazz aficionado; "You Tube" gives us so many choices that we were unaware of, like this "Carmell Jones" for example; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHCfcDQUYPIDuring my most active collection period, I missed out on some of the best West Coast players, now I have to play "catch up". |