Jazz for aficionados
Here's one by Blakey that I don't think we've heard; it has one of the hippest lineups ever in the "Jazz Messengers" group; possibly any group. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jmge2vurDNY Art Blakey – drums Lee Morgan - trumpet Hank Mobley - tenor saxophone Bobby Timmons – piano Jymie Merritt – bass I pick the late 50's as the very best time ever for jazz; and this group was certainly among the best exponents; of course this is a very personal observation. |
I Went to physical therapy and Christmas music was coming over the PA system. It was the same old Christmas music we have been hearing all of our lives; even when we were praying for that bicycle to be under the Christmas tree. Although I'm a jazz aficionado, the closer it gets to Christmas, the more I like that music. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EgZAajTf08 |
Rok, it seems that you selected everybody's favorite Christmas song from around the world, I'm going to give you some alternate versions; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1HJGawdmyM My favorite; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei1O04PlDHM |
I want to play a game. Now in order to play this game, you have to be the real deal, you can not be a fake aficionado, you have to be the real McCoy. This game requires as much sensitivity as the musicians who create this music. Normally I make a statement like, "In my opinion" before stating something, but this time I'm going to make statements that I consider "definitive"; objective statements. In order to play this game, you can agree with me, or make statements that you consider equally definitive, and more objective. You must also post a link to illustrate your statement. This is about the fewest notes in jazz that have said the most. So that we don't get off track, I will state a time frame, but if you think of something just outside of that time, that's cool too. My time frame is from 1955 through 1960. The tune I pick is "Moanin" and the pianist is Bobby Timmons. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv9NSR-2DwM The first one minute of this tune established Bobby Timmons as the artist who could say the most with the least amount of notes for all eternity. |
Crwindy, I welcome you to this thread. That was a very astute observation, but space is 0 notes, and would not be applicable to the challenge I presented; however, the music before and after the space would be applicable. I assume you made your statement in jest? On the serious side, this challenge requires a few decades of listening to jazz, and a lot of thought; only a longtime aficionado would even rise to the challenge. If you qualify, post a link that rises to the occasion of saying a lot in very few words or notes; this can occur anywhere in the message of the tune, beginning, middle or end; the whole tune even? I wish you well, and hope you make many contributions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZbW3RT4GJI |
Very good Acman, you rose to the challenge; the first few notes of "If I Were a Bell", established itself as that Miles tune, which was a highly significant tune. As many times as I have heard that tune, I just realized how significant it is, and I don't have that album in my collection presently, although I had it. Over these many years I have lost numerous jazz albums to some mystical form of attrition that occurred when I gave parties, and ganja was part of my religion. (that was a very long time ago) |
Pryso, the Basie tune doesn't qualify because there are so many other things going on. The Miles tune qualifies in regard to number of notes and space, but the beginning is kind of "abstract", plus it takes a lot of notes combined to make a significant statement. If there is anyone qualified to rise to this challenge, you are. As this game goes along and you see what I'm looking for, you'll get better. The few notes must make a significant statement that's imprinted on your mind, as are the first few notes of "If I Were a Bell" and "Moanin". |
Here is another tune that lets you know at the very beginning in few notes that you are about to hear something spectacular; the beginning notes are a prelude to one of the most well known tunes in jazz. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1GrP6thz-k |
Rok, although she might not be well known, Rene Marie is a diva. Either you or Frogman posted an album that I bought. Yes Rok, Whitney Houston was a great loss; I find it very painful that I've known people personally who I miss because of drugs. Although I'm not going to a pain clinic, I know my pain is going to get worse, and I always said that I would never become a "junky", now I don't know; but if people only became junkys because of pain that comes so often with age, Whitney Houston and a lot of other young people would still be alive. |
Frogman, since I'm not a musician, it's impossible for me to state anything in the same terms as you; I state things in terms of "feel" and recognition; which is another reason I stated this game would be difficult for anyone other than longterm aficionados. Right off the top of his head, Acman came up with a real winner that I'll have to buy. That's what I'm talking about. Although I didn't specify, the tune must be one that aficionados will immediately recognize, because they've heard it so many times, now I'm including "recognition"; this is not a technical game. After realizing that Crwindy was right, in regard to space, I posted an example of Shirley Horne's use of space. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHold6ylvEM Now would you rate this one? |
Pryso, that Monk is an absolute winner. I've got a funny story about Miles and Monk. Miles was making a record, and him and Monk had an argument over next to nothing; Miles said he didn't want Monk's plinking and plunking. Now here's where it gets real funny; I have this record of Miles, and I always think the piano is Monk, but it's Horace Silver. After all these years, if I put that record on, I would still say it was Monk, and I bet in a blind test, that you, Frogman the musician would say the same thing. After the argument, Monk walked out, so now there's no Monk, and his plinking and plunking was what Miles needed on a specific cut. Miles told Horace Silver to do that "Monk thing" on that cut. |
Frogman, this is the second time you posted that. I was just hadn't gotten around to commenting on it, but it's a winner. Although I'm the OP, this is not an autocracy; all the members of this thread have a say in how things work. Music, and jazz especially are quite abstract, consequently it takes back and forth chatter for things to be settled. |
One more for the road. That time frame is working out real well for me. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k94zDsJ-JMU |
Here's another well known tune, by a well known artist that you can identify on the opening. This is probably the most recorded tune in all of jazz; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7r77GLcGlvQ |
Although this tune has been on before, I didn't recognize it, and it really impressed me; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi3i-HqDNFI |
That record, "The Breeze and I", by Joe Diorio, and Ira Sullivan, had one of the most beautiful versions of "I Wish You Love" I've ever heard. If it's available, I'll get it. I like Red Rodney's "Star Eyes" as well; is that available? Ira Sullivan's "Jitterbug Waltz" made me think of another version; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9C6GgL4T9W8 |
Crwindy, somehow my statement in regard to your post on Shirley Horne didn't come out quite right. I hope it didn't discourage you. As you can see we're a free wheeling bunch; some of us are playing my game, others are submitting Christmas music, we even have some New Orleans blues; so just jump in with whatever you feel comfortable. |
Frogman, I find your comment much more interesting than mine, which was a nothing comment, but the fact that you made it serious is much more significant. Do you think that comment should be removed? There are people who make a big deal about a comment like mine, but never see the homeless people in our big cities, or how jobs in this country have been "off shored" as a result of NAFTA , CAFTA and a host of other trade agreements Frogman I'm already in trouble for informing people of how the wealth of this country has been transferred to the oligarchs. I admit it's nice when you're on the receiving end of the transfer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6niWzomA_So&t=2170s Otherwise it's not so nice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqjJJgjVHlU&list=PL51CPD51hq2TZZVQ8LHwEqwxpY-5DfE51 This stuff was designed by perverse depraved politicians in expensive suits, and you call these thieves "Your Country" when they only steal from poor people who can't defend themselves; CUT THE FOOD STAMPS, AND LET THEM EAT CAKE. Maybe you can get me kicked off this forum and take over the thread after this post. |
Mary-jo, if you thought your last post would bring me back just long enough to comment on it, you were right; that old man is me. I have no idea how Paul Desmond "A Taste Of Honey" has eluded me, but that will be corrected. Here's one for you; BTW, that girl on the cover of this LP looks almost exactly like my high school sweetheart, including the scarf. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT5zGYaUN_Q Although I'm too involved in other things to be back, I wish everyone the best. |
Did someone else submit this? After watching it, I wanted to thank who ever submitted it, but couldn't find who to thank. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqorVLscxRI No other single musician has had the impact on jazz as Charley Parker. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqorVLscxRI |
Never post too early in the morning. First post has same link twice, this is the one that was intended, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8imhzVC9Z5o |
Rok, I think this tells the story bettter than anything I can say http://www.jazzwax.com/2009/02/interview-phil-woods-part-2.html |
There is something about the feeling I get when I hear those old jazz tunes that were so popular when they came out; it's like seeing an old friend that you haven't seen in a long time, it's a warm feeling. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u23Etcb-L9M |
While I'm not sure this tune apply's to our game, I dig Jimmy Smith's organ, and this is one of my favorites from the 50's time frame; I hope you like it too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaTH6VbFK7I |
It's better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z_1JtJrsg0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wyfxeax03n0 |
Here is a jazz artist we haven't celebrated; While on a visit to the U.S. in 1958, Legrand collaborated with such musicians as Miles Davis, John Coltrane, Bill Evans, Phil Woods, Ben Webster, Hank Jones, and Art Farmer in an album of inventive orchestrations of jazz standards titled Legrand Jazz. This is one boss album, I'll have to replace mine, it's seen one playing too many. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmnkmrdO6nI |
These are the cuts that introduced me to Roland Kirk, they are still my favorites; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk0mSclnUQQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWPUKskCv7E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp_YRl1qWTk |
I was looking for new jazz, but instead discovered a beautiful Flamenco singer, "Estrella Morente"; she's new to me anyway, but I haven't been into Flamenco. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz92rUcc6LA |
