Jazz for aficionados

I have that plus many LP's by Chico that are not on "you tube".

I've been collecting Chico since the beginning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ugFD8jjAcw

     

Acman, "Nigerian Market Place" is extremely beautiful music. Usually, when I begin a statement like this, there is a "But", but in this instance, there are no buts.


Enjoy the music.

Trombone Shorty is full of life; a unique southern kind of life that believes in "You got to take what you can git"; not what's best for you or what you want.

Trombone Shorty is saying he's looking at what's available, and he is going to git him some. He is also singing about the reality he is seeing in the "Southern Ghetto"; more manufactured poverty, and the violence that always goes with it.


Enjoy the music.

Real Jazz was specifically "African American", it emanated from the depths of the souls of those ghettos in Chicago and New York; I am referring to urban "Modern Jazz".

Miles Davis, has been given far too much credit for being the spokesman for this music, so has Wynton Marsalis. (Frogman, I am speaking of a specific frame of time; 1950 to 65.)

No longer am I specifically into "Bebop", but the music that was also created during that time frame by some of the same musicians.

This music emanated from the souls of the people whose ancestors were slaves, and they came north to the big cities for a better life, only to find a different kind of hell, almost as bad as slavery; although nothing on Gods green earth has ever been created worse than slavery.

The music "jazz", in the big cities is about "African American" life in the big cities. When and where the economic realities are horrendous, the human soul must find some solace, and that solace was "Jazz"; it expressed the frustrations, it also expressed the undefinable joys of being Black, not just Black, but the most unique race of people to ever exist on planet earth; that is because they have drawn from the most infinite gene pool to ever exist: all the tribes of Black Africa, plus all the European genes as well; which explains Black people with blue eyes. That race of people exhibited the most incredible inventiveness ever witnessed, most of which was stolen by white people.

Presently, that same resourcefulness, will be the only thing to get the working class out of poverty that has been created in the last 30 years.

Rok, "Trombone Shorty" is talking to me and I hear him; he's speaking his "Southern Soul", he's got a hard way to go, but those African and European genes he acquired from his ancestors forced indulgences, are not going to let him quit.

Frogman, you sure know how to write, but you don't know how to reason; when genes are dispersed in such a casual manner, the only thing certain is the origin of the genes; the Black genes came from Africa. If you had studied all the various tribes of Africa as I have, you know what an incredibly diverse place it was before "they sold slaves". Unless the genes were dispersed scientifically, there could be no conclusion of who has them, or how they will be manifested.

People Black as the Ace of Spades have managed to be successful in the European manner when they came out of slavery; how this occurred is a mystery to "everybody". It's no mystery how the light skinned blacks who were educated because they were the masters offspring prospered; but how Black people as black as the Ace of spades prospered is most certainly a mystery to me.

When discussing something of this nature, a million people and a 50 year time span is not exorbitant.

When talking about anything or anybody, the most important question is; who was his daddy. Then we can go from there. Was he the little baby boy who was delivered to the penthouse in New York, or was he the sharecroppers son. (no matter what color, he got a tough roe to hoe.)

It's not a matter of blaming "Whitey" because he's in the same boat; the aristocracy has played it that way.

Schubert, with you at the Frogman's side, what has he to fear?

Frogman, the smartest people in this country are "White"; the dumbest people in this country are "White"; the richest people in this country are "White"; the poorest people in this country are "White"; I believe you could call this a "White" country; would you disagree with that.

Rok, "Jazz" is music from the soul, it's about what you feel, it does not require your intellect.

Trombone Shorty is playing the jazz of the Southern Ghetto of New Orleans; he is pouring out his frustrations and desires through his music.

Those Southern musicians were always very honest in their music; just as "Trombone Shorty" is. I will be listening and commenting more on "Trombone Shorty".

Frogman, truce; I was listening to this, and I wondered what you would think about it; I considered it beautiful music without considering "genre"; that's not always important.


        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxiMprePISA


        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygb-JDuAYOo

This is considered to be the very latest "jazz" and I'm giving you guys first crack at it. Listen with an open mind, but first listen.



            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJpm2GTyTW4

The music "Trombone Shorty" is playing is uniquely his, and he's part of New Orlean at the Jazz & Heritage Festival.

Rok, whether or not a piece of music is jazz, can cause more trouble than it's worth; if you like and buy the music, you have the right to identify it.

When we started using that description of "jazz jazz" to denote the music in a certain time frame, it seemed agreeable to everyone, but in hindsight it was a mistake, because jazz evolves like everything else. Recently I got a new car, and it's "star Trek" compared to the old one; I don't know if I will ever be able to operate all the buttons.

Although this music has evolved, I haven't; guess you can't teach an old dog new tricks.


Enjoy the music.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3a3RxVTuNc



That song has so much energy, I feel better every time I hear it; "Trombone Shorty" has identified the best thing on God's green earth for him. I try to imagine what it must be like to be a young man in "Nawlins", with so many young beautiful ladies, including the well known "Creole Lady Marmalade".


          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4LWIP7SAjY


It ain't jazz, but I'm looking at life from "Trombone Shorty's" view, and it's not a bad one.


Enjoy the music.

It's amazing how music brings back memories; without a doubt, that girl was sending you an invitation you were afraid to accept.

The "Tower of Power's" music sounds familiar but the name doesn't ring a bell; although I liked it.


Enjoy the music.

Since many of us are in a "trombone" mode, and I'm down loading "Urbie Green" into my PC, I'll share with you "Urbie Green The Fox"


          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-Q30Zq3IHU

8 track times; I remember those days.


          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kduvcqx-BU



               

Words usually have a meaning, but I can find none to "Dodge The Dodo"; OK accept that fact and move on to the music.

The music was "different"; I could listen for a prolonged period of time without changing the channel.

I was rummaging through some boxes in the basement that had sat for so long that I had forgotten what they contained. At the bottom of one of the boxes was a dusty crystal ball. I rubbed the dust off to see if it still worked, and to my surprise a vision began to appear; a man singing a song;


      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FIuSTT277XI


     
Fortunately, that didn't last long, but it was followed by this foxy lady singing the same song; could this portend to our future?


      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--VoDLuUh18

Since I heard the "original", that's the one I like best.

The Dodo didn't want to avoid anything, it was the Dodo that was to be avoided.

Slide  Hampton was the best  by far.

Starting off the day with good music is like starting it with old friends; Curtis Fuller and Benny Golson are two of my best old friends, we go way back; their voices have such a comforting sound.

Curtis Fuller with the "Jazztet"; this is the original "Killer Joe", the one I played on the jukebox while sitting on a high bar stool waiting for company.


              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u23Etcb-L9M


                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr7wcGmh12A


              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8ku2vRJ7rU




Enjoy the music.

I just realized that one of my favorite artists has been severely neglected by this thread, maybe that's because he doesn't blow a horn. Cal Tjader plays the vibraphone and makes some of the most beautiful music this side of heaven.


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxY3UEDJUH8


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5podNvGXs8


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KYOVWloU6A



Cal plays music for stressful times; when I listen to his music, I drift off to a better time and place, I hope you have the same experience.

Inna, so that's what happens when Classical meets Rock.

Mary_jo, the first time I saw Tina Turner, she was just another pretty 16 year old girl, but I was a teenager as well so you can understand my point of view.

There is no sound lovelier than the sweet sound of Milt Jackson's vibes;


      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmij2ENtXqU&list=PL0q2VleZJVEmzcysKEtfJ5XCfQwjzq5MK

Boss Bass;


      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6u8j1jnJso&list=RDW6u8j1jnJso&start_radio=1


      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5EwGijmqKc


      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut6LinT-DJI


I was a teenager in Chicago the first time I heard "Bohemia After Dark", and just after dark when you could see lights coming on in the skyscrapers, I would fantasize about what pleasures the Bohemians were indulging in, in those tall buildings, and the day that I would join them.

Here is an interesting composition Sir Roland Hanna has chosen to display his talents.


              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVXvNaMC3FI

Although I'm in search of ancient African music that was transported to Brazil and Cuba which no longer exists in Africa, it goes with the religion that was transported with the music, and I can't find one without the other; consequently, I have to accept that fact.



              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oapiog1Nltc


                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24lHSU35Aqs

A person who intentionally antagonizes others online by posting inflammatory, irrelevant, or offensive comments or other disruptive content, are Internet trolls.

Learsfool's comment is a cleverly disguised "troll" comment, that will not go unnoticed by me, the person who the comment is intended to inflame, and it has served it's purpose.

Learsfool's comment was related to a hardbop jazz musician who lived in my apartment with me in the summer of 69. Although I had been an ardent fan of his for 6 years before he moved into my apartment, he jammed like he never jammed before in his entire life that summer; his music was even new to me.

Maybe some of you know about "Center Stage" under the Arch in St. Louis on the 4th of July; that's where he wowed the crowd, but I can find no record of this, nor was any of the music he was playing at that time recorded. One of the aficionado's referred to my friend as that giant imaginary rabbit "Harvey"; since I can not prove his music, that's fine with me; but I will tell you more about my "imaginary" friend.

He got dressed in the morning, the same as we all get dressed, but he put on something real hip and cool, without ever thinking about it. His conversation was "hip and cool", without ever giving it one iota of a thought; maybe that's because he had been a "jazz musician", who has played with so many other jazz musicians we love, for all of his adult life.

He performed three nights a week, and I functioned as his chauffeur. I was spell bound at each hard bop performance, and so was the crowd. There was one club that only opened up when they had "hard bop" jazz artists on stage, and he wowed that audience as much as he did me.

Not one time did he ever ask, "What I thought about his performance"; but there was no need.

We talked after his performances about his life as a professional jazz musician till daylight. (I was on sick leave at the time)

The controversy arose when I stated that he never practiced when he was living with me. It would have been very hard for him to practice if he wanted to, but I don't recall any need or desire to practice since he was performing three times a week.

I understand him now better than I understood him then; people don't like to tell you when they know the end is near, and their life is coming to a close; they just want to get away from you and do it their way.

Sir Roland Hanna is a jazz pianist I know very little about and I'm not sure I have him in my collection. The reason I'm mentioning him is because he never left the realm of "modern jazz", but still progressed in a way that others said couldn't be done, or they couldn't do it; they had to leap into some new almost unrecognizable musical universe.

There has been so much music created in the realm of "modern jazz" that we don't know about; I subscribed to 3 different Hi Fi Mags, and CD Review, and I didn't know about all of it. I primarily relied on my buddies to bring me up to date on new music; but there was a jazz explosion when more music was created than most could acquire.

Rok, this Bud's for you; it's our kind of music, the music that progressed from the "Giants of Jazz" who were in Nica's book "3 wishes."


      https://www.amazon.com/Live-Village-Vanguard-Konitz-Quartet/dp/B00YBX3VU8


Enjoy the music.

Frogman, beyond a shadow of a doubt "Pepper Adams" was one of the best baritone saxophonists ever, and he's my complete pick.

I read something into it from a long time ago, if that was not your intent; my bad.

Enjoy the music.

The "Aficionado in Chief" has to admit this is either the first time he's ever heard "George Mraz", or he has an awfully bad memory.

Keep em comin.

   

I was born in the same neighborhood where Miles Davis was raised, but I never met him because I was 3 years old when he left, and he never came back. The only reason I'm telling you this, is because it's almost impossible to believe that the person I uncovered from talking to people who knew and played football, went swimming with, and played basketball with Miles; is the same person we know as "Miles Davis".

I never even knew what I'm relaying to you now, before I read his autobiography. I knew the people he wrote about, I mean from my childhood until the time they died. Once upon a time people didn't seem to move from place to place, and neighborhoods were much more stable.

The Miles I uncovered is such a drastically different person from the one we think we know. The only thing that tracks with the Miles we know, is that trumpet; it seems that from the time he was 13, he was almost never without it; plus that, anyone who was a music teacher or musician, met him personally because he sought them out to learn whatever he could.

I was talking to a ladies son about Miles music; she overheard the conversation and remarked; "I remember Miles, he was the little dark skinned kid who was always trying to play the trumpet". (what do you say behind that?)

According to his friends, he was the nicest, kindest person you could ever want to meet. According to that older lady, he was always so mannerable. I talked to different people at different times, trying to get something negative about Miles, but never succeeded.

Contrast that with the Miles that we think we knew.

Thank you Alex for a very good story. I will try to get back with an extended comment.

Coincidentally, my favorite tune by Lee, is "Search for The New Land"


          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDfkkRa1VA8

True crimes of passion are the most unpremeditated forms of murder to ever occur, and neither party is 100% innocent or guilty; the bereaved or the perpetrator of the murder. If the deceased had just thought about the "volatility" of true love before he took those last minute actions that caused his demise, he would not have died at that moment.

For the perpetrator of the murder, it's all a bad dream, they don't even know what happened; there was either a gun, or a knife handy that instantly found it's way to her lovers heart. While in the case of Helen Morgan, she had absolutely no intention of killing Lee Morgan, he died from loss of blood.

The same passion that takes people to heaven can also take them to hell. After it's all over, someone has to take responsibility for the corpse; we can not simply explain it away by saying, "She was consumed by the passion of the moment, and had no idea what she was doing; it was the passion that made her do it, but that is precisely what happened.

I think when this is truly the case, those people should be let free; they are even more grieved than anyone, because no one loved the deceased more than they.


As much as I like the albums by Lee Morgan that I have, from here going forward, I'll focus on his solo's that gave other artists hit records. 


Enjoy the music.

This is one of the ultimate Milt Jackson's


      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rch0zXwBUPE&list=PLwyqsi3UPXWjLxrna1W7AV83h3el7umQb

The laws of love and life supersede all the laws of man, and if you are not aware of them, especially at a young age, you can wake up in an early grave.

"I love you, I will kill you"; believe those words. "we", or at the very least, "I" have been led to believe some crazy jealous woman who was 12 years older than Lee Morgan murdered him.

The truth; all woman in love are jealous, she was 12 years older than Lee is also true. What was not revealed was the fact that she was the "Queen Bee"; certain unwritten actions had been taken over a period of years that gave her that title. The Queen Bee must be given the same respect as you would give your lawful wife.

"Slugs" was her hive, because that's where "her" man was playing. To bring another woman into the "Queen Bee's" hive was a very bad idea, and then to exasperate a very bad idea with a show of bravado by throwing her out, turned out to be a fatal idea.

But remember, he bought her the pistol for her protection; she might not have used it if it had not fallen out of the coat pocket when he threw her out.

Mitigating factors; five inches of snow, plus it has been alleged that emergency people were afraid of that particular neighborhood; that's why he bled to death. I'm not a New Yorker, I don't know.

"I love you, I will kill you"; one must respect the passion of true love; failure to do so can be fatal.

"After she shot him, she said to herself; "This had to be a dream"; that's the nature of a crime of passion, "a bad dream in slow motion".



Most geezers can't even remember passion, or much else, but when I forget the passion of young love, I'm already dead, and I hope you can find somebody to bury me.

This is a 'legendary' record from the past that I haven't heard for a long time; "No Room For Squares" Hank Mobley, where Lee Morgan produces some fine solos. You pick out the best one.


          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xcq_zg-Zw5k&list=PL0C6579B036180F3A

Frogman, your evaluation of my posts mean a lot to me. There is a very thin line between a true crime of passion and cold blooded murder. The nicest sweetest people who would never commit the crime of murder, have in essence done so in an instant when their lovers said the wrong words; but of course we're talking primarily lovers in their twenties.

  "There is no way I would ever marry you"; that one sentence has gotten more men killed, I even knew one of them.

Back to the music: that solo is exactly what I'm talking about. There are many other solos by Lee Morgan on other records that drew my attention when I was casually listening, and remarked to myself, "That trumpet sure is bad", only to discover it was Lee Morgan.


Enjoy the music.

Alex, you brought up another article in regard to "Blue Note" and junkies that gave a broad picture of how they were exploited; Blakey learned from his masters.

That whole dope business was much worse than what you know about, unless you had close contacts with an individual who was a junky. Thank God there is so much less of it involving current jazz musicians. (I hope)

This is my favorite "old school" Miles;


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMW3RloxEyA

Than you Pryso; your appreciation makes the effort worthwhile.


While sax is my favorite instrument, it seems that the trumpet, by a smidgen, is the soul of jazz, and Louis Armstrong personifies that soul.


Thanks again!

"Bag's Groove" is my favorite groove.

Soul Sauce has "Afro Blue" on it;


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKU6YhRmCZo


One of my favorite versions.

Today is a good day to explore and share with you another one of my alternative genres of music, meet "Enigma"


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2YLLlHPO0g

"Charles "Yard bird" Parker": I heard him on scratchy records, played on cheap rigs, and I was still drawn to his music. Now I suggest to you who have not appreciated this man's music, to at least listen to it on "you tube"; no other jazz musician who has ever lived has been idolized by more jazz musicians than Charles "Yard bird" Parker. I've selected one of his records I like for your approval.


                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t23bDoaNug



Here is a vocal version of the Gypsey.



                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yovIyTnUr5I


We all believe what ever we want to believe, that's what makes life more livable.



Enjoy the music.