Okay...the NYC oracle = Frogman. Personally, I’d be adding him for a consult on matters of taste too (just saying’).
Christian McBride is definitely an outstanding bass player. Another great example of his talent in that Metheny/Brecker Baltica performance that Frogman posted. For me, he mighta been the best part of the first 15 minutes or so that I watched. |
Could imagine some black pepper with that...
Yes - I've been checking in here periodically over the years. Sometimes the family squabbles are entertaining. Sometimes a little tedious. Rok do have attitude (or, as they would say in NE Phila., at-tee-tood) along with some strongly held positions.
But enough of this chitter chatter...
Check out the Jazz Pistols recording, "live".
From the opening crowd noise, sounds like a small venue. The SQ is very good. So is the playing.
Jim Carrey is genius. The "out take scene" in the bakery at the end of Bruce Almighty when he does Sammy Davis Jr. singing The Candyman is screamingly funny (well, it was to me). I looked on-line but those unused bits ain't quite as good as what I recall being in the movie. |
Hope you like it, Frogman. On a second listen today, sonics and playing are still great but song to song they aren't all of the same quality. Some work better than others. It's a pretty long recording...think they could have edited some stuff out (maybe).
Hello O - So I am listening to this Cannonball Adderly "74 Miles Away" and liking it. Love live recordings where the crowd noise gives the music a bump in energy and excitement. Makes you feel like you are there.
I found this track on Spotify but as part of an album called, "Cannonball Plays Zawinul" (the Cannonball Adderly Quintet, actually). It is Track 1.
I assume you knew/know about this recording. Any comments? More fun hearing about it from you than looking it up on Wikipedia. Once again hearing some good piano on this. Need to find who else was playing in his quintet. |
Randy - Apologies in advance if you already know of them, but the Rudy Van Gelder reissues seem to be highly regarded. The couple I have or heard do seem to have excellent sound quality. The collection here might be a place to start. https://www.amazon.com/Prestige-Rudy-Van-Gelder-Remasters/dp/B00O50R6Q2/ref=oosrThanks Alex. Zawinul is an interesting character. His playing on that Adderly 74 Miles Orpheus had posted and elsewhere on the Cannonball Plays Zawinul recording was surprising to me as all I knew was his work with Weather Report. I know he is well respected, but personally, after hearing what he was doing early on, I wonder about the "artistic merits" of his later funk dominated/electric piano signature style. Almost like he dumbed things down as his career progressed. I expect that'll get some howls from any Zawinul aficionados! :-) O - if you can find it, the Cannonball Plays Zawinul is a pretty strong collection. |
What I don't get is this, how can anyone like Adderley and The Jazz Pistols at the same time.
Rok - I'm supposed to think you gave the Jazz Pistols a serious listen? And further, based on your past couple screens worth of diatribe, why would I even attempt to explain? Assuming I could! Kinda like asking me how I can like Chocolate ice cream and Pistachio. Ya get it or you don't.
Here's a question for you...
Why you gotta be so surly? It ain't like you don't have constructive things to offer but you always seem to wanna pick a fight.
Later for that.
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re Cannonball Plays Zawinul... An Amazon review and a link to the album liner notes: http://albumlinernotes.com/Cannonball_Plays_Zawinul.html4.0 out of 5 stars adderley & zawinul = frantic fun By William J. James on February 20, 2005 Format: Audio CD Before there was WEATHER REPORT, Joe Zawinul made a significant contribution to jazz via his partnership with Cannonbal Adderly. Joe was the piano player in Adderly's band in the early 60's...a seemingly strange collaboration between a Southern born African American sax player and an Eastern European, classically trained pianist. But from the opening track, it works and it works to such a degree that this cd moves like a runaway train. There is, of course, Zawinul's hit MERCY, MERCY, MERCY which is atypical in the context of the other selections (but a great soulful, funky classic) but it is clear that Adderly recognized Zawinul's writing talent and gave him his due by playing his compositions exclusively on this recording. Adderly and Zawinul were on the cutting edge of jazz at the time this recording was made and their music stands not only as a foreshadow of what was to come but as a classic in its own right. The album SOUNDS like a live club date but the listener has to wonder if CAPITOL records once again made a studio recording with drinks and "friends" in attendance. It all just adds to the frantic fun these musicians appear to be having at this juncture of their celebrated careers. dr. Muse |
It has entered "Tedious Territory".
Gonna go play that Cannonball Adderly clip that O posted 9 million words ago.
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Thanks, O. So it's a compilation album. That makes sense and explains why I wasn't seeing it listed in Adderly's discography. I did listen to all of it on Spotify. There is audience noise...some whooping and hollering on just about every track (well, now I'm second guessing myself about "every" track). I'm wondering if the originals were all done live or if the crowd noise was an effect added later by the studio in producing the compilation. Agree with your assessment...would be a good buy for me.
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Frogman -
The 3 jazz guitar albums you provided links to some days ago (Burrell, Hall, Montgomery) were not in vain. I just ordered the Wes Montgomery Incredible Jazz Guitar. That seems a special recording and based on what I read about it, others think so too.
Found a brand new Riverside/Keepnews produced reissue from 2008. Hoping the sonics are good on it. It was that version or a ’91 original (CD) release...also Riverside with Orrin Keepnews the producer. Taking a gamble that his involvement in the later reissue will make it good. Degradation of master tapes a concern, of course.
@alexatpos - Listened to several of your Burrrell links (a few more to go) and all the Zawinul/Ben Webster links. Until I heard that Cannonball Adderly stuff Orpheus posted, I didn’t know Zawinul could play like that...didn’t know about his classical music training. Ben Webster has a kind of distinctive sax sound, I think...pretty warm and a little ("loose"?) maybe.
I can hear that Burrell is a good (great?) jazz guitarist but the style is so mellow...kind of a snooze for me. I’m not putting him down in any objective way. Just giving my reaction based on current taste. HOWEVER, that Bean Bags album with so many other players involved (including Tommy Flanagan) seems worth spending time with (and maybe buying). Thanks for it. |
Hello O! That’s eggsackly the kind of stuff I like hearing about. So the speculation by that Amazon reviewer is wrong (i.e., it was done in studio before a live audience). At the same time, my estimation of the LP as a Capital Records "product" has gone up. Not only do they come up with a good theme (Zawinul compositions) but they get all but 3 tracks as live recordings. Best I can tell Mystified (Angel Face), One Man’s Dream & Ndo Lima are not live...at least, there’s no crowd noise or applause at the end of each. I think they did a pretty good job with how the tracks are sequenced too. It ends, just as it opened, with a longer track: Dr. Honoris Causa (dedicated to Herbie Hancock). The version here is not with Zawinul but George Duke on keys. Kind of a spacey mood like the opening 74 Miles Away. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aFWMnTvgBk&ab_channel=200FZ |
Ralph Towner's "Nimbus" from the album Solstice....as mysterious and wonderful sounding as it was decades ago when I first heard it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi-HBCcYeco&ab_channel=PedroSchmitzFrogman - re JP's "live' on You Tube, Lemme check. It might be something I found on Tidal or Spotify not thinking about availability via YT. |
My brother in law sent a couple links about Hammond organ including one that had a compilation of "great" Hammond organ solos (there are 3 parts)...he sent the 3rd. A lot from rock (e.g., Keith Emerson, Jon Lord) but some jazz interspersed as well. Jimmy Smith, obviously. BUT what caught my attention in Part 2 was a young woman playing back in 1972. "Moanin’", which should spark O’s interest, I’m guessing. Check it out. Wish I were as young, talented and as good looking ! :-) hahaha I’ll be curious to know if you have ever talked about her.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIB2ywz3S9o&ab_channel=tehtube...and here she is again. Thirty years later and playing in a duo... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra4kYAYCdeI&ab_channel=hans1970So you got "Krautrock"... I guess you can have "Krautjazz" too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf4tbCRuvSk&index=2&list=RDvf4tbCRuvSk&ab_channel=hans19...Huh. Frogman, so okay, the reviewer on Amazon might have known what he was talking about - at least for that Mercy Mercy Mercy track. I do NOT want to ignite another controversy but are you saying just the one track was done in front of a live studio audience, or the whole shebang. O - I do agree with you about the fusion "feel" of the 74 Miles and Dr. Honoris Causa from Cannonball plays Zawinul. |
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Frogman - see the post I just entered ahead of yours...was editing it a bit. Will check out your links. |
Okay...listening to that Dave Liebman and liking it. I'm definitely a fan - more often than not - of things coming from ECM. I like early Jan Garbarek quite a bit. Have several pieces of his on vinyl. AND the elusive Ghosthouse-pleasing jazz guitar? Not sure why I didn't mention him sooner: RALHP TOWNER! My first intro to ECM was a record I borrowed from the public library. Din't know nothin' 'bout ECM or any of the players. That was "Solstice". Have been in love with it ever since AND with that moody atmospheric ECM sound. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solstice_(album) |
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Hello again Frogman. Well, good to know there's at least one adventurous soul on this jazz thread. Always pleased to find shared appreciation of music I like. Neil Cowley is new to me too. Apparently the darling of some of the critics which tends to make me suspicious - especially if you read their over the top superlatives. I try not to hold that against him! There is something really powerful and almost hypnotic about that "She Eats Flies" live performance. BTW - We have cats. All indoor. They eat flies.
Stumbled on NCT "Spacebound Apes" first via a Spotify recommendation. Like it. Wish it were longer in the sense of more elaboration of the various song ideas. Haven't given Displaced (album with Flies) a full listen yet but planning too.
Yes...I'm familiar with minimalist Classical though hardly expert on the genre. The Kuba Kapsa Ensemble's Vantdraught 10 that I posted for Inna (though he wasn't having any of it) draws heavily from that style. Rachel Grimes and Rachel's are also influenced by minimalism. Can't recall who her big influence is...maybe (Geoffrey Burgon?). Saved him but have not listened yet.
I know Adams name and connection to minimalism but have not listened to him. Terry Riley might be another I'm vaguely familiar with. Obviously, you can't avoid Phillip Glass. He does get a little repetitive (hahaha). I do like his Koyaanisqatsi however.
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Correction - Not Geoffrey Burgon. Make that Michael Nyman.
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Great, Acman....glad you enjoyed that Neil Cowley. I'm still a bit up in the air about him. Just haven't listened enough. Liking what I've heard but some part of me is also thinking "he's dumbing it down". I only just started sampling his stuff, however.
Thanks for sharing the new Pat Metheny. My intro to him was As Falls Witchita Falls. I actually saw him with Lyle and the other guys at the McCarter Theatre in Princeton NJ. for a concert in support of that album. It was really magical but maybe favored Lyle's contribution as opposed to Pat's guitar work.
I'm definitely not offended about your comments re my appreciation of his more standard jazz guitar work and sound. It is what it is for me at this point. It's funny how you say, "he does go off road every now and then" because all I ever knew of Pat early on WAS off road and, not knowing any better, I thought that was his "on road". Maybe I will try to list the Pat Metheny stuff I have. You can see what my listening experience of him has been. Thanks again.
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Acman - this Cuong Vu stuff is interesting. Makes me want to hear more by him. Only puzzler right now is, I'm almost 8 minutes into this 9 minute Acid Kiss track and I haven't heard a lick from Pat...leastways, don't think so. Well, guess I know what'll be on the box tonight. This album is on TIDAL. |
Ah, okay, Acman. Point taken!!! That first link is pretty far off road! Wasn't aware Pat had done anything like that. If that is something you listen to regularly - you are WAY more adventurous than I. Have read "Zero Tolerance" was one of those "contractual obligation" records created "with prejudice", if you will. While I have some interest in experimental/avant garde, that interest has its limits. No desire to follow Pat that far off road. The Ornette Coleman is a little more accessible but again not anything that will be on my top 10 (probably not even top 100) must buy list.
On the other hand, I just finished the Cuong Vu Trio Meets Pat Metheny. THAT one works for me though not sure I can fully explain why. Maybe Frogman can weigh in with some music theory based description of what they are doing. What I can say from a "subjective-only" perspective:
1) As an entertainment, it's a stretch but not completely out of reach.
2) Some discordancy but not fingernails on blackboard.
3) The right level of complexity for what I can hear/appreciate today
3) It's new and fresh, interesting and exciting.
4) Agree with you...love his trumpet tone; no ear bleed
5) Great musicianship all around.
6) Excellent sonics!
7) Might like it just because of the rhythm section
(drumming especially ;-)
I admit to being given to short-lived infatuations with new music. Will have to see if Cuong Vu pulls me back for repeat listens. Have a feeling it will. Want to explore his other albums too. Thank you very much for the recommendation.
Right now, listening to Neil Cowley Trio "Displaced". This strikes me as a little meatier than the pretty but somewhat lightweight (and short) Spacebound Apes. Looking forward to your further comments about NCT.
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Acman - I'm having a problem with Allmusic as well as All About Jazz. They don't like I'm running AdBlocker but when I do disable for their sites get buried with pop up ads. If you have album/track references for those samples I might be able to find them on Spotify.
The story I repeated about Zero Tolerance was from an Amazon reviewer.
Pat's definitely an experimenter and innovator...would be a mistake to dismiss him as a new agey/smooth jazz player.
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Frogman -
Thank you very much for those descriptive paragraphs capturing Cuong Vu's trumpet playing and the "Acid Kiss" song structure. It rounds out the listening experience for me. I liked Acid Kiss (really, the whole LP) but specifically what about it ? and why?? As a "word guy" (lots of years doing technical writing) it's frustrating not to have the requisite vocabulary to talk (other than vaguely) about what we're hearing. "Writing clarifies thought", someone said. Related to this, your words help "objectify" the "subjective" experience. Good stuff. THANKS again.
Regarding PM...I don't consider myself a newcomer to the PM admiration society BUT haven't paid much attention to what's he's done since, say, "Road to You". Have just a couple of things that he did after that but definitely out of touch. Nice to be connecting again and finding more depth than I would have anticipated. |
Acman -
That seems true for me as well.
The older I get, the less I know.
If you have track and album names for those Pat Metheny selections you wanted me to hear on AllMusic, please advise and I will try to find them on Spotify (or Tidal).
Thanks.
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Irony, Rok. "Noise making" (pardon the typo) was quoting you about another fusion outfit.
But you and Wynton go ahead and keep guarding that House of Pure Jazz, meanwhile the party has moved a LONG way down the road from there.
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@alexatpos -
That's a clever set list. Thanks.
You might be right about the best parties being long gone. On the other hand, I tend to think our retrospective assessment of such things is often colored by the growing awareness of our own mortality. Regardless, better, best or just okay...lots of engaging, entertaining, celebratory, quality "jazz" being made TODAY; e.g.,
Aaron Parks
Brad Mehldau
Contemporary Noise (Quintet or Sextet)
The Funk Ark
Goran Kajfes
Jaga Jazzist
Jazz Pistols
Medeski, Martin & Wood
Meridian Arts Ensemble
Snarky Puppy
The New Mastersounds
Only scratching the surface here.
Of course, if you only wanna accept as Jazz stuff from a decade 50 years past, your options are somewhat more limited.
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Hello alex -
Apologies to all the "aficionados" for bringing up yet again an already discussed topic.
I certainly wasn’t taking issue with anything you had said. If your tastes lead you to sort of "specialize" in a certain period of jazz music, by all means, continue - I am not criticizing that choice. I also don’t think you are one of those closing the door to calling music "jazz" that was created outside some "golden era" (which truly might have been a zenith for the music form). I understand such is not your preference and that is fine. I do enjoy posting things to exercise Rok because his replies are entertaining AND informative (even when I don’t agree which seems to be often).
Jumping onto your question to Frogman, the term that links most of those groups I listed is "fusion" - a mix of jazz and rock elements. I’m sure you knew that so perhaps you are looking for finer definitions as you suggested for more traditional, golden era jazz.
I do find Rok's use of the word "noise" a little extreme; no doubt he exaggerates to make a point. To my ear, "free jazz" - part of the orthodox jazz canon - has much stronger claims on being "noise". By contrast much of the stuff performed by those groups I listed has pretty strong melodic content and would hardly serve as an example of "noise".
As far as me developing "a further affinity towards some specific sound of that [golden] era" (well put, by the way) - the process is underway and has been aided by many of the suggestions posted here. So, thank you for your input so far. It’s appreciated.
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Chazro - THANKS. Found it on the Spot and Tidal too. Safari playing now. Great stuff. Smooth sailin’ groove for sure.
Were you the one turned me on to Sao Paolo Ska Jazz? It was in another thread. Not sure. Anyway, if the Sao Paolo name is new to you, check ’em out. I got the 2009 self-titled release. I see just now they have a 2016 release, "Gringo". Haven’t heard that one yet.
Thanks again for this Anatomy of a Groove.
Alex - okay...found Liquid Soul Equinox on Spotify but couldn't find it on Tidal (there's a Techno outfit with the same name). YES...this works for me.
Circling back to our earlier exchange, what/who do you recommend for trombone in either a newer "funk/fusion/jazz" style as this in this Liquid Should OR in a BeBop or HardBop style. The only name I know is J.J. Johnson but don't know much of his work. Love that 'bone solo in Safari.
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Liquid Soul is great (could do without the HipHop DJ'ing rap) but otherwise really enjoying the music. Thanks.
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Alex - Thank you for taking the time to come up with those several suggestions: Brookmeyer et al. Much appreciated. Will check them out.
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Hello Frogman - I did realize for whom your comments were intended. Appreciate you taking the time to explain. I asked strictly out of curiosity. Fagen is a case study in "supercilious" - though that hasn’t diminished my own enjoyment of his music. To my mind, that attitude has been something of a Steely Dan trademark, so not limited to Fagen alone. I do appreciate how an emotional response to the artist (or lack thereof) independent of any artistic-merit considerations can affect "receptivity". I encourage your view of The Nightfly as a "masterpiece", however. FWIW - Michael Jackson would be good corollary in my own little universe. Thanks for the tip on Wayne Shorter’s "Atlantis". I note we are contemporaries given college being some 40 years in the past.
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Frogman - okay! I do think I get it. Not disputing anything you've said. We can let it rest. Just brought up MJ as an example of a personal case somewhat analogous to yours (yes, imperfect) where someone's professional credentials (whether pop, R&B, musician or entertainer) just don't get me past subjective issues with that individual...not to mention taste (absence of) for the music style.
You bring up QJ...I'll repeat again the great admiration I have for the "behind the scenes" talents in the studio...arrangers, producers, engineers (anything else?). That would be a good thread: a listing of the standouts in each of these 3 areas. |
@jafant If you have not yet, check out Discogs. See link below. Looks like the original CD release year was 2004 in Sweden. That release available from a US seller for $115. A Canadian release (1986) is much more affordably priced. US release date was 1996. Of course, this assumes the Discogs release history is complete and accurate. Good luck. https://www.discogs.com/Arne-Domnérus-Jazz-At-The-Pawnshop/master/244008 |
Thanks, Frogman. Interesting stuff. Wish I lived closer to the city. Would be great to be able to get in on a Monday night to hear the Vangard Jazz Orchestra. A bit of living history. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thad_Jones/Mel_Lewis_OrchestraI especially enjoyed Roland Hanna's piano work on Groove Merchant. (Seem to enjoy playing that uses a lot of chords.) Reading about Jones, there are connections to other names...Count Basie, Elvin Jones, Bob Brookmeyer and Tommy Flanagan. Reflects the jazz "community", I suppose. |
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Amen, Ray. Thanks Frogman. Heaven help us no matter which of those two wins.
Meanwhile, I continue my secession from TV Nation and am occupying a news-free zone. Liquid Soul S/T (as suggested by Alex) is cranked up. Feeling pretty serene for the moment.
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Welcome back, Orpheus. Enjoyed your post about the Miles compilation. Read an interesting essay once about the impact of A/C on neighborhoods and society. Don't want to overly romanticize things, but it's a mixed blessing (along with TV). Glad you are posting again. |
Hello again O...
Appreciate the encouragement. Haven't started listening yet to the Jazz Showcase album you posted about. Might have found the whole thing on Spotify. Is this Jazz Showcase recording 11 tracks long? 'Round Midnight is track 4 on the version I'm seeing on Spotify. It looks like this Miles compilation might be one of a series of Jazz Showcase recordings. There are others featuring Sonny Rollins and Bill Evans (two different releases). There might be others. The label on the Spotify version of the Miles Davis release is "Fantasy" w/a 1998 date. Let me know if that's the one you are talking about. |
PS - I will look for that A/C essay. But it was a while ago...in print and not on-line. Not sure what publication. Thanks too for the trombone recommendations.
What you are saying about TV seems like it matches up (at least in part) with what I think. It's defining reality for (some) people and it has become this weird mirror/feedback loop...telling them who they are and defining behavioral norms for them! Turning society into a bunch of narcissists constantly staring at their reflection. The major networks are the worst. I have to stop myself now before I launch into my rant about TV producers. |
@orpheus10 Hello Orpheus. Wanted to let you know I spent some time with that Miles/Jazz Showcase recording yesterday. Didn’t get through the entire thing but did listen to the first 8 of 11 tracks. Will finish listening and/or relisten to all in the few next days. You had asked about sound quality and if it was good enough for my collection. The music always comes first for me and SQ, unless unlistenable/atrocious (like some Todd Rundgren I have), is secondary of course. I’m guessing the tracks on this ’98 version are all mono? I could tell it’s old recorded material but the SQ was not terrible. In fact there was a kind of purity about it...maybe because the stuff hadn’t suffered from a heavy handed engineer? Even though not widescreen PanOrama there was very nice separation and clear tonality of the various instruments. I had to laugh. At one point right before Miles plays with mute, I swear you could hear a squeak as he installed it. Don’t recall the track name. Volume dynamics are pretty wide I thought. A few moments were briefly sharp and peaky but not many of those. I don’t know enough about the various sax players to tell a Bird from a Trane but the sax work that people were saying was CP had a nice full tone. I guess that’s tenor vs alto sax maybe? Getting back to production, the other thing that made me think "pure" was that the arrangements seemed pretty sparse...mostly a good thing to my "less is more mind set". I see it on Amazon for $10 or so and feel inclined to get it almost as a historical document (there’s no way I’ll back fill my library and get all the individual Prestige recordings). Bottom line...THANKS. By the way, my neighbor came over and we spent a good couple of hours this afternoon viewing that ’85 Blue Note Concert at NYC Town Hall. First time I’ve watched the whole thing. IT IS REALLY REALLY GOOD (not that I need to tell you). My neighbor loved it and wants to get his own copy. The Freddie Hubbard show to an extent (he’s in so many of the combos). Have to say, was very taken by Woody Shaw’s trumpet sound on Appt. in Ghana. Smoother more melodious than Freddie, I thought. The other track that stood out for me was that Charles Lloyd Tone Poem performance with Michael Petrucciani. The last track Cecil Taylor playing "avant grade" jazz was a little tough (we ended the concert early) and an interesting way to finish the video. Jazz looking forward and not just backward, I suppose. Regardless, Cecil Taylor has MAD skills as displayed in that 12 minute closer. So there’s a "jazz jazz" update for ya. For a change of pace after the Blue Note put on that self-titled Liquid Soul that Alex (I think) recommended. Really enjoying that one. Thanks again to Alex. Closing out the evening now with Jazz Pistols (one a Rok’s favorite noise making groups). Here’s Smbh which could stand for super massive black holes but then again, maybe not. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieiTrViJJQE&ab_channel=JazzPistols-TopicLater. Ciao. |
Frogman.
re your comments about the Miles track (The Man I Love - Take 2, I believe) that O provided, pretty certain it’s the same recording as on the Jazz Showcase album he recommended. The opening segment featuring Miles’ trumpet is kind of "sleepy" as you say but, to me, once Milt Jackson starts in earnest at around 2:15, the energy level picks up and takes another upward bump at around 4:40. Your comment did bring to mind one somewhat related observation about the Miles Jazz Showcase - that being the performance tempo used on Track 8, Blue Haze. While there might be well respected justification for it, personally I found the plodding slowness of that particular piece painful (for what little that critique is worth!)
I located Atlantis and had sampled it briefly but did not spend much time with it. It is saved and I will check it out more thoroughly.
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Okay, Frogman. Listened to Atlantis. I could hear why you thought it would appeal to me. It’s got a contemporary sound and I do like the chord progressions and arrangements. Jury’s still out for a final verdict. Have to listen more to see whether a connection gets made or not. Did a little reading about Mr. Shorter. Quite a prestigious career. Had no idea he was a co-founder of Weather Report. From Atlantis, Track 3 (The Three Marias) was familiar to me. Here’s another take on that composition (and where I’d first heard it). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IxLpCk7atA&ab_channel=ffrangconAlso, an interesting piece about WS and "the Dan" here: http://www.jazzwax.com/2011/07/how-steely-dan-got-wayne-shorter.htmlThanks for the suggestion. Got some trombone music to check out. Hey O - I DO remember when you’d sit through a not so great track rather than get up to move the needle and skip it. Something similar applied to TV before remotes, i.e., back when there were only 3 network channels + the public station (Channel 13 growing up in the shadow of the Big Apple; deadly boring to a kid). That A/C article might have been in The Atlantic but right now I can’t view it on-line because I’m running AdBlocker...so not certain if it was the one I’m remembering. Keepin’ It Cool: How the Air Conditioner Made Modern America - The ...
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"The range of music called "jazz" is as wide as the Pacific Ocean...."
"The ’Jazz Pistols’ and the music currently under discussion, are like two different shores of the Pacific Ocean."" ’The Three Marias’ sounds like fusion; I have to get into that ’mind set’ to appreciate it."Agree Agree Agree...yup it’s fusion, especially as Summers does it, so was surprised to discover it’s a Wayne Shorter composition (surprised because I was ignorant of WS's resume and history with Weather Report). Regarding getting into "that mind set"... Vice reversa and backatcha, O! I’m usually up for fusion but have to get into the OTHER mind set to appreciate the more traditional "jazz jazz" that most here seem to thrive on.
In the middle of the Pacific, maybe this will represent something of an island to share. Make it to around 7 minutes and be rewarded with an excellent sax solo that starts around then. Hope you like it. Maybe others will too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lFYvNlrDyg&ab_channel=PatMetheny-Topic |
Glad you liked the Metheny track, Orpheus. I followed Pat closely back in the ’80s but not for quite a while since then. Acman’s posting of "Acid Kiss" from The Cuong Vu Trio Meets Pat Metheny got me interested in what he is doing now - this Unity Sessions CD being some of his recent work. Worth reading about. Culmination of a lengthy tour (150 shows if I recall correctly) with this same outfit. Guess they were "honed" at that point. It seems a strong recording all through. Another potential "buy". |
