yes what rcprince said is quite true,ive heard a jp 80 with cl 150 and newer vt 150 on gen 1 and we didnt have too much of a problem,but you allways felt there was more there,the jadis was much better and you paid the price too!i still remember the day i first heard a new cl 150,it changed the way i listened to music for ever, they were a magic amp in their day,at that time jadis had that reliability cloud over them and nobody wanted to take the chance,my fave arc product is the ls 5
