Issue with dynamic range database


Listen to the whole thing before commenting .... especially the part where the poster says, "I know, because I mastered it."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n-AE9dL5FG8&t=7s
sugabooger

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Bukanona, he mastered the CD and vinyl. He knows what he is doing.


Miller carbon he states that the digital version sounds crisper and more dynamic even if the numbers do not. Based on some of the blowups it looks like he needed a rumble filter and probably better RIAA processing input to output. Without controlling for variables the vinyl version of the dynamic range has no meaning which I think was the point he was making.
It was mentioned. However, that only validates the authors point, it does not invalidate it.  The online dynamic range data base is user generated. We can be confident the digital values are accurate as digital systems are consistent at a macro level. Analog playback systems are not. Rumble, poor equalization, poor turntable set up, will all lead to exaggerated numbers not representative of the music. This is the authors point which you seem to be missing.

bukanona
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05-16-2021 6:50am
sugarboober,
he said that vinyl and cd versions was the same - he gave the same digital file to manufacture vinyl.
so he didn't know what he was doing from very beginning.
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He knew exactly what he was doing. He wanted the same presentation from both the CD copy and the vinyl copy. This is not a young guy. He has been around since vinyl. There is no reason why the two can't be the same if you want them to be the same.


You are completely missing the point. They should have the same dynamic range. They do not. The dynamic range as measured by the dynamic range meter is false. It is not accurate. It cannot be used effectively to compare CD and vinyl.  You have not presented any ideas that invalidate this premise.
Thank you for adding that detail Atmasphere. The voice of experience!   The author of the Youtube video was making this point. The data base is not a lab grade measurement, it is a measurement made by people with every day turntables, and probably a lot of Crossleys with USB. Most audiophiles don't digitize their records.  Most of those turntables will have lots of issues, not necessarily bad from a listening standpoint, that will render the value for the vinyl record useless.
They can be mastered differently to compensate for vinyl limitations. In this case that was not done.