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Is Tidal Sunray much more difficult to get high/

extreme performance compared to the Tidal CDSE ? Which amps would you use for either ? Am planning a once in XXX years upgrade to my system. Have some old mac gear MC2720 and C37 power and pre respectively, transport Wadia wt-2000, Wadia Digital 2000 DAC, B and W 804s (being the most recent addition 7-8 years ago !). Read about the Devialet D Premier and thought would do my wife a favor to reduce the amp clutter + more relevantly integrate my AV stuff using the devialet and stream music etc. 3 months later i realized my speakers are not good enough so did the rounds from Wilson to Verity. That then made me realize that i want to go back to ugly amps as the Devialet (which i must now sell at 3 months of age :)) while sounding great and looking gorgeous, wouldnt optimize speakers i might eventually buy. Am debating between tidal contrivas and the sunrays (different price points i know) and wanted to assess if people believed/knew /experienced a Sunray's performance in an open living room format versus that of a Contriva and more importantly if the sunrays would need much more expensive amps to get "value/extreme sound" from ?
rohitmalh
ojdeteos
26 posts
 
depends on your music taste, but i won't like the burmester-tidal combo, and if regarding tube power amp, i blew up mine, 150 watt tube when trying to drive sunray.
now i drive it with friend's ss monoblocks, the sound is more open, not restrained like before.
about contriva vs sunray, well, like geopolitis said, sunray is a more demanding speaker, so you will spend more to bring out its potential, but i can tell you that it is well spent.
regards
rohitmalh OP
14 posts
 
Hi ojdeteos
Makes sense.
I like rock and classical amongst other things...
Wow - your tube amp tripped despite being 150 per channel... What about all the people who drive it ( or say they do) with 25 watt SETs...
Ss = ?
Also how much did you pay for your used Sunrays? I checked on Audiogon but they dont have any history on Tidals ( I was happy to subscribe to the blue book but Tidal isn't listed in the menu)
I saw a new focal grand utopia for 32000 USD on audiogon and given that the new sunray and new grande utopia are similar, I couldnt help wondering...
ojdeteos
26 posts
 
i remembered that the time my amp blew up, i tried more complex music with higher volume... well lesson learned, all my acquaintance laugh when they heard
i think different setup at different room will have have different impact on people. i have tried boulder stereo, karan monoblocks (900 and 2000), cary stereo, i am curious about tidal's own amp, but there are none available here, IMO for now, big karan can make sunray sings very nice.
about the price, i think it will depend on demand, i got mine at a good price from a friend, at agon they usually float at 70K and some at 80K.
rohitmalh OP
14 posts
 
Is it all about the power/ current or is the "gain" of the amp / nature of transformers used important too? I ask because I've read about Sunrays driven by burmester 911 monoblocks . I know from listening and then reasoning with experts that burmester bec of its design has a compensating effect on the 50-100 hz region of a speaker ( heard a non sunray tidal and a kaiser kawero with different burmester stereo power amps) and effectively " rocks the bass" more while making classical music edges a bit more rounded ... Thoughts on burmester for sunray and if one 909 mk5 would do or if absolute wattage as you mention is needed?
avantgarden
6 posts
 
if you don't buy TIDAL amps or TIDAL LPX
personal i suggest you don't buy Sunray

there is a pair Sunray T1 in Audiogon
only ask for price $59500USD
and maybe you can have more better price after negotiate
this pair already save a lots,what you save can hlep you buy 2 TIDAL impulse amps(active crossover inside)

Sunray is a Heaven/Hell Speaker
without TIDAL amps and Active ,
it will be more eazy put you in the hell
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