Is the DAC the digital equivalent of a cartridge.


I'm thoroughly convinced that the closest thing to the source of the music/sound is most important component.  I'm an analog vinyl guy, but am looking into digital, and was just wondering if DACs have the same influence on the sound because it's as close to the source as the cartridge is.  

tyan42

I mostly agree with this. the importance of a DAC is underestimated by some.

@carlsbad yeah it is mostly ignored by the people in the 80s who were told ads naseum about how great digital was.

And some of that is from posts like this:

My analog and digital ends have outstanding and very very similar sound quality. The cost breakdown (and I did not just arbitrarily throw money at it )

Streamer $22K - DAC $17K

Turntable $20K - phonostage $17K

I assure you that if the streamer value was halved the sound quality to ~$10K, the digital end sound quality falls precipitously. I have tried it. Also I increased the DAC cost from $17K to $22K and got virtually identical results. Of course you cannot abstract this to all systems… but I have done a lot of work to minimize the cost of each of my components and get the most sound quality.

I have a $1500 DAC, which measures as good as it gets.
And an Intel NUC.
Why do I need all that other crap to get sound?

DACs and ADCs are pretty easy things to do.
They have been telling us for 35 to 40 years that it is better and cheaper.

It is cheaper to distribute files on the internet, but the rest is not really a benefit to me.

Well the stylus reads the information in the groove, and the the DAC is supposed to read the digital 1 and 0.  How well an instrument does these tasks makes me think that's why they're so important in the chain.  

 

I was watching Mike the OCD hifi guy and he ways adamant about the DAC being the thing you build your system around.  If you're intro digital I would probably agree.  I really don't get why a lot of people are still touting the myth that speakers should be the the most important component thus the one that requires the biggest budget.  

@jjss49 So it is like a car? 😎

 

The cartridge is literally a generator (motor).

The DAC is more like a graph paper to electrical plotting. And the ADC like the signal to the graph paper.

 

@czar2000 

DAC is digital phono preamp and cartridge is the transport.

The DAC is probably more like the cartridge.
The phone stage is like the buffer at teh end of the DAC which outputs the signal.
And the RIAA is not in the ADC at all.

The transport would be like the TT itself, and if one has a streamer or a file based system,, then there is no transport.