Is remastered mainly just less jitter?


When a  CD is remastered is it simply just less jitter???
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So I misused a word, instead of recorded I should have said re-mastered, it's all the same, older especially originals, usually have better dynamic range and to my ear sound better.
Because of it I don't know, maybe I just don't like re-masters even if they're the same level, as the originals, but then there's the dynamic range which I prefer to point the finger at, because the DR website let me see this, and it gels with what I'm hearing.

Cheers George
kalali
It looks like the older the recording the higher the dynamic range. Just scrolling through the chart, regardless of the artist, the lossless CDs from late 80's and 90's all have consistently higher DR. This is completely the opposite of the common wisdom. Anyone else noticed this or am I just misreading the numbers?



geoffkait

kalali
It looks like the older the recording the higher the dynamic range. Just scrolling through the chart, regardless of the artist, the lossless CDs from late 80’s and 90’s all have consistently higher DR. This is completely the opposite of the common wisdom. Anyone else noticed this or am I just misreading the numbers?

uh, that’s kind of the whole point. The industry has become more and more aggressive in compressing dynamic range in favor of loudness. This all starting about 20 years ago. Check out the more recent recordings in the past few years, LP, SACD, CD, even downloads. The trend is not your friend. You’ll notice many of the recent releases are all in the red. Hel-loo!

You guys only just find that out?

https://forum.audiogon.com/posts/1408833


Cheers George


It looks like the older the recording the higher the dynamic range


Just inferring this is what I said in my first post, and gave the DR website for everyone to check.

Cheers George
I had an audio session at Deqx’s Allan Langfords place on Monday and took a 1st issue Sade Diamond Life CD he’s into downloads, here’s what I said about it on the SNA forum.

" PS the original European 1983 Sade (Diamond Life) on cd that I bought along, it blitzed all the versions (about 5 of them) Al had on his 20 terabytes of H/D hi-rez, re-mastered, re-con-cocked downloads even the MoFi one he had." not one of them stood up to the original 16/44 1st edition.
http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/list?artist=Sade&album=diamond+life

Cheers George

dynamic range isn’t the only factor
No there are other factors, but to me it’s the most important to start with and you can do something about it now, and the DR website let’s you be the controller of what you buy today.

Cheers George

spoutmouzert8 posts04-14-2017 1:55amSorry for going a bit of topic but are there any websites that simply show which is the best lp or cd version to buy for the best recording/sound quality? I was listening to Depeche Mode Violator on CD last night which is easily in my top 10. Discogs https://www.discogs.com/Depeche-Mode-Violator/master/18080 does a nice job of showing the different versions but is there a website detailing the best sound quality version? Thanks for the help
http://dr.loudness-war.info/

As you can see the best is the earliest non remastered that are the least compressed, I buy all my cd this way s/h and it been right 100% just click on the one with the most green and find the cat no. and go ebaying.
http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/list?artist=Depeche+Mode&album=Violator

Cheers George
Five pages of The Rolling Stones releases, again early stuff was the least compressed, SACD is not so good, and DSD lovers will get a reality check here.

http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/list/1?artist=Rolling+Stones

Cheers George
Most of the re-masters I’ve heard are just louder and more compressed.

Typical example was the Moody Blues On the Threshold of a Dream, the original Decca release is so much better than the MFSL re-master.
Sure the Decca was a "little" raw, but the MFSL re-master was blunted and fat, no excitement in comparison.

Cheers George
This was the MoFi one, crap also compressed to the max, rubbish. Vinyal to me was the only decent one.

http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/view/75115

Cheers George
Mobil Fidelity Sound Labs only did one jafant, the one I linked to above.

Cheers George
I’d love this, got the CD Issue/ cat no. and year it was done? I can see on the net he did a SACD version but the redbook layer of that was crap. All the SACD’s on the list show it was also compressed no DR, all done in 2003 

For him to have done this, he would have had to get the original master tapes from that recording session 21 January 1972 .

Cheers George
I have had many Dark Side of the Moon's, none were great as the list shows, best was the vinyl.

I buy all my cd's s/h on ebay for a couple of bucks this way. I search then click on the issue with the most green, get the "catalogue number", and search it on ebay. 

http://dr.loudness-war.info/album/list?artist=Pink+Floyd&album=Dark+Side+of+the+Moon

Cheers George
If you go to this website put in your artist and album you'll find usually the earliest original cd’s are the most dynamic, the later and remastered ones are just louder recorded and more compressed rubbish.

http://dr.loudness-war.info/

Cheers George