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Is it possible to transfer analog tone and soundstage of vintage reel to reel to digital.

Sam here again. I have a hi-res digital rip of the rolling stones sticky fingers album from an original commercial reel to reel tape from 1971 and the analog warmth and soundstage is as good as it gets to my  ears. loudness war free sound.   https://postimg.cc/rDmzvR80

I realize there are many digital plugins that emulate the sound of analog tape and vinyl, however when I use them in post processing of digital audio I seem to get further away from the sound I'm trying to achieve? Now I may be naive on the subject, but if I want to digitally replicate the sound of vintage analog tape in the digital domain, why not go directly to the source? Heres what I did I extracted 1 second of analog tape sound between tracks and made an impulse file for the convolver dsp filter for foobar2000. I believe it made the digital download sound better, however, I'm not 100% sure.  Here are my audio samples (1) reel to reel (2) commercial digital download (3) commercial digital download with the impulse filter applied. I used replay gain to normalize the volume to 89db for all three samples.

(1) reel to reel (1971) 24/192 http://u.pc.cd/d2qrtalK

(2) commercial digital download flac16/44 2009 remaster http://u.pc.cd/4oditalK

(3)  commercial digital download flac16/44 2009 remaster.impulse applied http://u.pc.cd/99ActalK
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roberttdid
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YOUR silly little attacks aside, and your obtuseness at not even remembering what you wrote 10 minutes ago, it seems YOU care who was responsible since you attempted to attack me just 1 post ago with a Wikipedia link no less. Troll.

>>>>>Unfortunately for your “observation” your point is incorrect as the loudness wars has to do with mastering practices, not mixing.
roberttdid
534 posts
 
YOUR silly little and childish attacks aside, and your obtuseness at not even remembering what you wrote 10 minutes ago, it seems YOU care who was responsible since you attempted to attack me just 2 posts ago with a Wikipedia link no less. You are still just a troll.

>>>>>Unfortunately for your “observation” your point is incorrect as the loudness wars has to do with mastering practices, not mixing.

roberttdid
534 posts
 
I think you have your answer already in the last 4 words of your statement. It is all in the mixing, and what you like is the mixing. The format is secondary in this case.

Sam here again. I have a hi-res digital rip of the rolling stones sticky fingers album from an original commercial reel to reel tape from 1971 and the analog warmth and soundstage is as good as it gets to my ears. loudness war free sound.

roberttdid
534 posts
 
You are still just a troll ... who hijacks threads for your personal amusement and ego boost.  If you truly cared about audio and audiophiles, you wouldn't hijack threads to promote your unrelated thoughts of the day.

>>>>>Unfortunately for your “observation” your point is incorrect as the loudness wars has to do with mastering practices, not mixing.

roberttdid
534 posts
 
TROLL

Are you looking in the mirror? You did an excellent job describing yourself.

roberttdid
534 posts
 
YOUR silly little and childish attacks aside, and your obtuseness at not even remembering what you wrote 20 minutes ago, it seems YOU care who was responsible since you attempted to attack me just 3 posts ago with a Wikipedia link no less. You are still just a troll ... who hijacks threads for your personal amusement.

>>>>>Unfortunately for your “observation” your point is incorrect as the loudness wars has to do with mastering practices, not mixing.

roberttdid
534 posts
 
Oh great, you can quote Wikipedia ... so cute when people who have never done anything related quote Wikipedia. Applying compression at the end of the process during mastering is but one aspect of loudness wars, and even then, depending on who is doing it, they will refer to the "product" as the "mix".

*** Mixing *** marks the start of post-production, where an engineer carves and balances the separate tracks in a session to sound good when played together. With tools like ***EQ***, ***compression***, panning, and reverb at their disposal, mix engineers reduce clashes between instruments, tighten grooves, and emphasize important song elements. In some cases, they might even layer drum hits with samples from outside the session or mute redundant instrument parts.

Sure, people are still making very loud tracks – and it’s still a very valid goal for many producers out there to *** mix *** and master their music as loud as possible. Truth is, I do tons of mixing and mastering work every week, and to date, getting solicitations to make a *** mix *** as loud as possible is still, hands down, THE most popular request I get. However, with the boom of streaming services like YouTube, Spotify and Apple Music, for the average listener using streaming services, loudness simply doesn’t affect them anymore.

The perception of how loud a song is is based on the average level of the *** mix ***, rather than on the peak level of momentary transients (like drum impacts, for example). 


roberttdid
534 posts
 
Personal attacks, rarely on topic, hijacks threads for own ego (like this one).  Troll

Give my condolences to your liver, roberttdid, roberttcan, whoever you are. Good luck in your quest to be somebody.

roberttdid
534 posts
 
^^ Total troll.  Does not matter what the thread is about, you will find a way to talk about something that interests you.  "Is it possible to transfer analog tone and soundstage of vintage reel to reel to digital." .... has nothing to do with Cassettes, but you have been fixated on Cassettes so you bring it up.

Ditto it seems for light scatter in CDs, even if the thread is about streaming. "What the signal is", seems to be another thing you throw into discussions no matter whether appropriate. 


You love Wikipedia, so what does Wikipedia say about a Troll,
a troll is a person who starts flame wars or upsets people on the Internet by posting inflammatory and digressive,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the intent of provoking readers into displaying emotional responses[2] and normalizing tangential discussion,[3] either for the troll's amusement or a specific gain.

That is what you do here in a nutshell.  Inflammatory - check, Digressive - check, Extraneous - Check, Off-Topic - Lots of checks .... usually mixed in with insults and personal attacks to provoke. Literally you are a textbook troll on these forums.
roberttdid
534 posts
 
Only a TROLL would post something about cassettes that was irrelevant and bordering on illogical when the topic is:

Is it possible to transfer analog tone and soundstage of vintage reel to reel to digital.

We get it geoffkait, it is all about you. It has never been about audio.
roberttdid
534 posts
 
a TROLL is a person who starts flame wars or upsets people on the Internet by posting inflammatory and digressive,[1] **** extraneous, or off-topic messages ****
TOPIC:
Is it possible to transfer analog tone and soundstage of vintage reel to reel to digital.

Geoffkait,
The advantage of portable cassette playback - no angry PMs please - is it avoids all or most the pitfalls of CD playback, e.g., expense, power cords, speaker cables, interconnects, AC power, AC ground anomalies, fuses, transformers, Scattered light issues, fluttering disc issues.
One of these things, is not related to the other, one of these things just doesn’t belong.
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