Is improvisational jazz to impressionism art as smooth jazz is to realism art?


So, I’ll acknowledge up front, I’m an engineer. Civilian and Warfighter lives can be in the balance depending on whether our company products perform as required or not. As a result, I try very hard to drive the entropic world we live in towards black and white as much as possible. I need to put order to chaos. When i look at art, impressionistic art requires a lot of mental work to make sense of. I just don't see it or get it, appreciate it or like it. I also find, as hard as i may try to enjoy improvisational jazz, that i don't get it, appreciate it, or like it. Instead, I love Realism art and instrumental smooth jazz!!
Reading from Audiogon forum pages for a couple of years now, i feel like i should feel inferior because 1. I don’t appreciate the free flow of expression that is improvisational jazz and 2. I love that there is a tune and thread in smooth jazz. I love the guitar artistry of Chuck Loeb, Chris Standring, and Acoustic Alchemy; the trumpet expressions of Rick Braun, Cindy Bradley, and Chris Botti; and the bass works of Brian Bromberg. 
I’m curious if there are many others out there that equate order (or lack there-of) in their music tastes to that of their taste in the visual arts?
Also, are there many other music lovers who would rather enjoy a good smooth jazz listening session than improvisational jazz?  If so, who do you listen to?
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Abstract Art was a CIA project. No kidding... Classified Documents revealed that the whole market for doodle art was created by the CIA, they wanted to show the west as being more advanced and progressive compared to the Rigid Soviet Union.
The agency paid curators, and bought the art to kick start the market.
I think their motives were more of an experiment, to see if they could influence people to abandon classical standards, and accept the post modernism view, that there is no objective beauty.
If you don’t get abstract art and music, don’t worry... you still have a functioning brain, and are probably smarter than the average Joe.
@serjio Couldn't have said it better myself. This Post Modernism view of things is the death of Objective Beauty, it is debauchery and is Anti Life. Up is down  

  We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." William Casey, CIA Director 1981-1987



"We’ll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." William Casey, CIA Director 1981-1987"

"We are there."

Yup

Well, half the population believes in facts while the other half believes in "alternative facts". And each side will claim those on the other side are the ones who believe what’s false.

@stuartk what if both are completely wrong? ....Both sides blame each other, divided, manipulated, led around by the nose, scared, confused, demoralized. Unaware of the forces that guide them, shaping their thinking, all the while curating their world view.

To people complaining about the politicization of art and music, both have been used to disseminate propaganda since the start of Human Civilization.
Not all trash is Art, and Not all Noise is Music.
Beauty is not in the eye of the beholder, it is universal and intrinsic. Beauty has standards, by definition.
@deadhead1000 I just want to go about my life without bothering anyone. But people like yourself, will not let me do it. Can I make a living without acquiescing to whatever the majority believes I should do with my body?
I am sorry, I just lost my job because I refused to take a Clot Shot...sorry my life is all about politics right now. 15 year career down the drain, but yeah...I should just zip it.

And everything I said about the CIA creating a market for abstract ART is a 10000000% verifiable fact. The Documents supporting this are available via Freedom of Information disclosures.
But you are probably too busy to look them up.. It’s Okay, I understand.

And also, if you are referring to something I am saying, please tag me in your reply, and speak to me directly  without appealing to the gallery. 
@stuartk The Left believes the election in 2020 was legitimate....The Right believes the Election in 2020 was Stolen. Both are wrong, and simultaneously right. 
The Election in 2020 was conducted, outside of the theatrics, exactly how all elections are conducted. The Counting machines decide who wins, and have been deciding ever since they were implemented. Evidence can be found in a documentary called "Hacking Democracy"(One of many many other supporting pieces of evidence). The same machines that gave Trump the election in 2016, took it away from him in 2020. The theatrics that the Republican side of the American population saw, were to further divide the public, and are a precursor to the coming civil war.
All elections are stolen, and All elections are conducted in this way.
Brought to you by the good ol’ CIA. The implications of what I am saying are tremendous.

I know, sounds fantastical, but this same principle can be applied to nearly everything you think you know about the world today. The Overton window limits the conversation to the Left and the Right... The Truth usually resides far outside of the 2 answers you are allowed to choose from.
Music, Art, Philosophy are no different. The rot has permeated everything.
@deadhead1000 I am glad you took the time to research my claim about the CIA funding of Abstract Art, the claim sounds fantastical and tin foil hat, but this is what they do, outside of the overt dismantling of Democratically elected Governments Foreign and Domestic.
The other claim I made is also supported by undeniable, incontrovertible evidence...lawsuits, FOIA disclosures, expert testimony, mathematical analysis, you name it.
And yes, I do know the part the Republican party played in establishing the Right to work laws.... I am not a Republican, and I am not saying one political party is better than the other. The Dismantling of the American State is a Bipartisan Agenda, both sides are controlled by these multinational banking corporate conglomerates.
I also would not like to get into a Clot Shot debate on this audio forum, but I have friends and members of my family that have been injured by it.... The Coercion, threats, and rhetoric being aimed at people that are refusing to comply is in direct violation of the Nuremberg Code... but that is another conversation.

The Government is threatening businesses with crippling fines if they have unvaccinated employees, in a month’s time my family and I will not be able to do anything outside of going to a grocery store.... and even the ability to do that is being debated. Can’t fly, can’t work, can’t travel, can’t do anything.
How long before people have no choice but to revolt?

I know this is an audio forum, sorry for bringing up all this here.....but more and more it seems like you can’t talk about any of this stuff anywhere.

PS: I went to a "Jazz" show a few months ago, improvisational jazz ( I am fan of the regular jazz genre) and I walked out of that show with some Ear damage, I am convinced of it. The acoustics in that place, placement of speakers, and above all...The Music, if you can call it that, was sooo bad, that a friend of mine blurted out "what the hell" in the middle of a set, loud enough for the band to hear it.
The most amazing part of the night was people clapping, cheering and pretending like what we heard was worth the $30 price of admission....it was quite puzzling for everyone in my party.
Couldn’t help but think of the CIA as this was happening :)

The sound guy,   when  we told him that the volume  was unbearably loud, told us they have ear plugs at the door for all the guests....For real, he actually said that, implying that guests asked for ear plugs all the time, and they  were ready in advance. 
Imagine paying 30 bucks a person to go to a Jazz show, and then having to sit there  with ear plugs for an hour and a half. 
Up is Down....Damn the CIA Inversion.