Is a FLAT response the IDEAL?


Sounds in nature are not a flat response, quite often, there are natural attenuators, accelerators and amplifiers, including horns (caves), wind and water, let alone reflections, absorption and diffraction.

Similarly the holy grail (one of them) of recreating outdoor, concert or live music, and so on, abound with these shifts in the environment or context where the experience happens and the recording takes place. Are we depending on the mic positioning, and mic performance, along with mixing equipment, format and so on, to enable recreation of the environment when moving to playback. How does a flat response curve help?

Of course, we have DSP. For Club, Hall, Rock, Indoor, Outdoor and may other shifts to music recordings. And mastering adds reverb as another way to create a 3D version of context/venue. These are averaging processes that apply universal shifts to shape a standard curve across the music stream continuously.

So why is it that we pursue flat response curves? Or DSP generated fixed curves? How does flat recreate that live ’being there’ experience.

When designing equipment including components, such as DACs, and speakers, most seek to judge against a flat frequency response.

Mind you, how on earth can we allow other than flat. Turntables as most here know, use the RIAA curve to fix the problems of hearing that itself is not flat. But even that is aimed to deliver a flat hearing response.

I don’t understand. If we are trying to model or capture the original event, how does flattening everything help? And, what are the alternatives? How do we achieve close to the venue or location, given so many unique variables, that our approximations just don’t seem close to the original. It’s no wonder... Have we selected flat because it is the best average we’ve got?

Do immersive audio methods of sound reproduction do it better? Some prefer pure stereo, some like DSP, some multi-channel and multi-speaker methods including ambiophonics.

Where does the ’flat curve’ fit into the equation here, vs say cross-over design or powered speakers or upgrades as a priority? Should we care about it?

Well that’s enough to launch this inquiry...

johnread57

Showing 5 responses by kenjit

@cdc 

What makes you think that flat speakers are right? The best curve is the kenjit master tuning curve. It is similar to the bbc curve of the 70's and 80's but mine is proprietary.

 

There is no ideal response. What you need is custom tuning. Every track you play requires its own curve. But nobody has yet invented a system which can store a different EQ preset for every track. The ideal curve is not fixed because it will depend on the room, your ears, speaker placement, recording and your preference. On some days you might want a little more highs, on other days you might want less. 

Flat is just used as a marketing tool by the speaker companies to sell their speakers. A flat response looks impressive. A ragged curve does not. 

The studio pro folks love flat tuning. They dont care about sound quality they just want flat so thats what the speaker companies give 'em. 

Hifi folks are generally more fussy so you have a variety of curves being offered on the hifi market. Some are flat as a pancake but some are not. 

If you want to change your response, you need an EQ. You can then have whatever curve you like. 

No you can't. An EQ will change both the direct sound and the room response. Fix one and you can break the other.

The OP is not talking about room response. He just wants to know if flat is right or wrong. I have answered that. 

An EQ has already been used even before you plug in your speakers. The mastering engineer and the mixing engineers would have used plenty of EQ unbeknown to the audiophile. The EQ would have been used to balance the sound but you will need to retune the sound because everybody has diffferent hearing, different room and different speakers.This is why every speaker on the market has a different frequency response curve. Every speaker designer has their own opinion about what sounds good and so every speaker is tuned according to their preference and their room. The goal of an audiophile is to go out and find a speaker which is miraculously tuned exactly to your requirements and that of the speaker designer, which is highly unlikely wouldn't you say?

Having that kind of power became a horrible compulsion to EQ every song so it sounded "right

The technology does not exist to store a different EQ preset for every track. I've not seen anything like that