Interesting situation! Do we need this....


  I had a very interesting and unsettling experience that brings this hobby all together...or rips it apart. Recently,  I bought a pair of Fluence SX6 speakers, on sale at Amazon for $120 pair. A small, black, two way bookshelf speaker. Highly-positively reviewed. My plan was to pull the drivers to use in another project. I couldn't buy drivers and crossovers like this for $120(More on this later)...Anyways, I was listening to my new kit amplifier, AKITIKA Z4 that I recently built...Streaming Quobuz...The Fluance speakers were set up next to the KEF LS50 Metas as I had used them previously to test yet another kit amplifier, Nelson Pass' ACA Mini.....For six hours I was simply amazed at how great the AKITIKA kit amp sounded. Massive sound stage, tight, well defined bass, some of the best vocals I've heard, the "AIR" around jazz instruments was fantastic!.....a system to behold...playing through my KEF LS50 Metas....Six hours later, after all types of music, it was time to call it a night (or early morning)....As I go to shut down the system, I realize that all night I was listening to the Fluance speakers!!! They were placed side by side with the KEFs. Do we really need any of this high end equipment to really enjoy the music!

rbertalotto

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Mountain bikes have heavy wheels, or can, and you are paying a double penalty for rolling weight. It is not much of an issue on a road bike. The extra 15lbs I am carrying on my ass and elsewhere is where I need weight reduction, not my bicycles :-)

When I was doing low carbohydrate I did not do a very high fat version of it. Essentially, I replaced A lot of the complex carbohydrates with fiber and a bit more protein. Fat went up but not a huge amount.

I have been doing low carb since before it was fashionable and learning to eat to match my activities, carb loading when I was going to need it. I found that strength training was the best change for weight loss. More muscle mass, more calories burned. I am about 22lbs, but some of that is a carrier and a folding panier. You never know when a good bakery or winery will pop up on your rides. You have to have your priorities straight.

Even cheap drivers can be low distortion at lower listening levels. Audiophiles place far more importance on crossover parts than is warranted. A good design is more important. Room and speakers are a system. If the room is not treated and the position is poor a cheap speaker can put perform a better one. 

@moonwatcher the used prices on Ebay seem in line with most used speakers. One of the reasons for a lot of used units is likely that a lot were sold. Even my local discount retailer has them on the shelf. I doubt there is a more popular non amplified speaker. Unlike most speakers, they are easy to ship hence more conducive to Ebay/used.

 

@asctim , I cycle a lot. When people ask me about bicycles, I say there are 4 very important things. 1) Geometry. A bike that fits you perfectly will be comfortable.  2) Shifters that work properly and reliably. No one likes to fuss with difficult shifters.  3) The most comfortable seat you can afford. 4) Bike shorts.   Carbon this and that, aero wheels, a pound here and there .... how many of us are fit enough, or racing such that it makes a difference?  I do advocate for tubeless tires though. Better rolling resistance with less tire pressure makes for a more comfortable ride.

Audio systems are similar. How many audiophiles have a room properly designed and treated to extract everything that the electronics or speakers can do or get the most out of the recording? Few. How many optimize their bass with subwoofers and rooms treatment and active bass management? More, but still few.


I do like my big TV, but that is only because my eyes are not what they once were. I can relax in the recliner where I like to sit and not have to squint when there is text on the screen.

@cd318 

I was a fat kid. Not obese, but "fat". Turned into a fat young adult. Sort of hit me one day, and I vowed to change, and came across this low carb thing. I slip, but it is an easy thing mentally get back on track. It is much easier to do today that is was 25+ years ago.

Huge numbers of people in the world who get a large portion of their daily calories from rice. It is a ticking time bomb. In North America, we layer that with too much fat that on its own would be fine.

I often find it hard to find the time for a healthy ride so my "thing" now is a modified version of HIIT. A couple minutes flat out on the rowing machine several times a day. Consider it 10 minutes a day of a whole body flat out sprint.

@cd318 everything I read about HIIT indicates it is every bit as good for general health as the 3 times, 30 minutes vigorous per week (which seems to be creeping up), if not better. I really like the rowing machine. I am often surprised at the muscles that can be sore after 1 minute.

@petar3 ,

 

I find your comment unfounded. There is much to discuss and banning a topic because you cannot perceive what could be discussed is not a good course for a discussion forum. If one does not have anything to contribute, one is not forced to contribute. Does this inexpensive speaker have a good dispersion pattern? Do most very small speakers have somewhat good dispersion by virtue of their size and driver sizes? If you listen at reduced volumes, can even relatively low cost drivers achieve suitably low distortion for listening enjoyment? Are there some particular aspects of this speaker and drivers that lends itself to superior low cost implementations?

Many of the posters are starting off with the assumption these speakers cannot possibly sound "good". Maybe they should wonder why their expensive speakers do not sound better.