Integrateds: Why do they all SUCK?


I’m trying to find a HIGH QUALITY integrated that has:
1. A no-corners-cut real class A - A/B power stage.
2. A real, high quality analog preamp line stage.
3. A good phono stage.

Aside from a few very high end products, the above described integrateds seem not to exist. Why can’t I find a quality integrated? Do we just have to accept having a pile of boxes?
madavid0

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I like the older Creek models, not very powerful, very musical.

Happy Listening!

Look no further than the Esoteric F-05. I just collapsed my 5 piece bryston 7B SST2’s, BP-26, and Ray Samuels audio F-117 phono stage into this one piece. Did so after auditioning the new bryston 4B 3 and BP 17 Cubed series which are getting rave reviews. The Esoteric F-05 sounded clearly Superior to me on my Focal Sopra2’s and it has a balanced fixed level output which I will use to connect my headphone amp. Not Looking Back.
Thrax Audio Enyo and Ares integrated amps are true game changers and magical. All in one box units and support streaming and high resolution files. With built in Phono and Dac. They out perform  many seperates costing costing 30 to 60k

any old QED product; have not found anything better than my 240 SA, except I would like to find a QED 300 SA, which I think has front and rear speaker outs; Nakamichi, T$A is too base driven, and I no longer use it

be nice to find a well-rounded CD player and a dragon killer as well.would unload both my 1000s