Innuos Zenith Mk3 or something else?


Hello There,

Hoping to tap into the collective insight of this group. I am planning to buy a music server+streamer combo and am thinking of the Innuous Zenith Mk3. And have some questions before i pull the trigger:


1. Any rumors/insights of a new version of the Zenith Mk3 launching soon? (hate to buy into this and have a new version pop up in short order. I think the Mk3 has been around for over 2 years now and so I thought i would check in with this group)


2. Any other music server/streamer combo I should consider at this price point? (the Zenith Mk3 retail is ~$4700)


My budget is to keep it under $5K. Thank you!


longinc

Showing 11 responses by mahughes

New products not on the horizon at all. All work being focussed on the Sense app and 2.0 and rightly so given the obvious improvements to UI and sound quality.

Yes, the Zen is very much a sweet spot but having heard all 4 products I went for the Zenith and love it to bits. The CD ripper is excellent on all their products and the lack of a screen utterly irrelevant once you’re using the app or the web interface. 
The only complaint I have is that I want to know how the heck they keep lowering the noise floor with each new OS update. The Qobuz integration is excellent. Tidal integration is next followed by ethernet compatibility. 
I agree the Auralic is a tad cleaner but there’s not much in it and for some it could be read as a little less emotional and all the usual adjectives. Pays your money. Takes your choice. Biggest compliments I can pay Innuos are that the hardware just works and they are a company led by what customers tell them. 
@longinc genuinely hard to comment. It’s one for an audition. I have a weak point in my system as, to get it going, I used a £30 wireless bridge, which is still in place. I kind of assumed the switch would therefore give the biggest uplift compared to the reclocker. On auditioning, the uplift from the reclocker was by far the bigger. Go figure. Saving up for it as I write.
Nice try. Could you post links to those European forums for this always interested European who quietly haunts several of the major ones and sees little to no mention of the 432Evo. Better still post the link to the review please. Only asking because the pseudo science behind it is what we over here would tend to call “bollox”. 
Local to me are 2 dealers who stock the 432Evo. I’ve an open mind so borrowed one for a month, which turned into 6 weeks and put it up against a Statement belonging to a near neighbour. There is no “better”. I’d say there clear differences, strengths and weaknesses. Ultimately a matter of personal preference. It’s a good server and for some it will be but hard to say with a serious face that it’s better and frankly Sense/Innuos 2.07 alone would be enough to persuade most looking for accessibility to leave it alone.

Anyway, links please.
Oh dear. You said “several” European forums and yet you can only post one link? And that to a forum which has next to no reputation in “Europe” (whatever that vague term might be taken to mean in this context). It’s biggest posters are the people who own it talking to each other. As for the report in question. It’s written by someone who distributes and spots a gimmick he can push. Some of it is demonstrable tosh. I’ve had a Zenith 3 since last December and once set up properly I can comfortably get Qobuz quality which comes increasingly close to my CD rips. Can it exceed? No. Can anything exceed? No.  Can the Evo do that? Nowhere near. Literally nowhere near. Closer to the Zen 3. Certainly very competitive but there is a world of difference between that and market leader. 
The implication of your post was that you switched server sides based on the reports coming out of these forums and yet now you can’t remember any links? Try harder. Right now you’re a dealer selling BS.
I’ve had the pleasure of comparing both once again since the move to 2.0/Sense app and, putting aside that I would have agreed with you re: noise floor but disagreed re: timbre which is really DAC dependent, the drop in the noise floor with 2 has been widely commented upon. It is now significantly better than the Evo and pulling away with each new update. I get better results with a £30 wiriest grudge with the Innuos than with a £400 Chord ethernet cable on the Evo.
That’s before you even start discussing apps, where the Innuos is now effectively one of the market leaders if not the market leader.
Give it a rest @audiotroy. For those of us in Europe and who have heard all these products it’s embarrassing. The 432EVO is sold on the back of a gimmick. It sounds decent but, given the gimmick it’s decided to bet the house on, it’s basically one of many servers in a middle ground and nothing outstanding. Contrary to your repeated assertions, in Europe it’s had a couple of good reviews in mags but the feeling in forums is largely scepticism as people see the gimmick as pseudo science and an error of judgement in marketing terms. It has had little publicity; bang average sales and is going nowhere fast really.
Went on the largest UK forum. Not a mention. Went on the largest pan European forum. Not a mention. 
Unclear how @audiotroy is going to enhance their reputation using phrases like “I guess reading is not your strength”. 
How to alienate potential customers.
Would be interested in your view @in_shore as regards the Zenith 3 with 2/Sense. I’m on 2.08 now and the noise floor keeps dropping and is now measurably ahead of the Evo. That said, if you’ve a Statement, you’re not really going to care :)
I’ve heard the whole Innuos range and own the Zenlth as well as having much experience with the Evo thanks to my lovely near neighbour. I think it was probably truer to say that a Zenith plus the Phoenix USB got you somewhere over 80% of the way to a Statement. However, since 2/Sense it’s now probably another 5% or so.