Inherent Difference - 12AU7 and a 12AT7


Can anyone school me on the practical differences between a 12AU7 and a 12AT7 input tube when used in a preamp? For example, all things equal is one of these tubes quieter than the other on average, does one have greater gain than the other, and is there any characteristic 'sound' to each of these tubes?
stickman451

Showing 4 responses by detredwings

Because these are different tubes and not really interchangeable it's hard to give you an answer. The 12au7 has a gain of about 19 and the 12at7 is 70 I believe. You would need to change the biasing of the tube to get it to perform to it's best. You could plug an au7 into at7 position and it should operate but not at it's best because of what I mentioned. 12at7 are often found as phase inverter/splitters. I commonly see 12au7 or 12ax7 as the preamp tubes in the first stage of amplification. Can't give you an exact reason why. I have used amps and preamps with both and it came down more to the brand of tube more than what kind of tube for me. "referring to these two tubes" Some people like the 6SN7/6SL7 family better and don't like either. I like all mentioned above. Don't know if I have helped you?
Stickman as I mentioned they should work without issue but if you go to the web and look at the tube data you will notice significant differences in the voltage and current characteristics of these two tubes.

Kind of like driving a Porsche with a Chevy engine in it. It may work but it's not how it was designed to run it's best. I wouldn't spend a lot of money on nice tubes just to try it. But that's me.

Maybe just get some nice 12au7's like Rodman mention all he said are nice tubes. I have a friend that uses the EAT tubes and really likes them but I am not willing to fork up the money to try them.
The do make a AX7 Music Direct carries them. $225 a pair. That is what my friend owns.