Improve volume from turntable with a new cartridge?


Hi all,

I am getting back into hifi after years of iPod and computer speakers. Last week I bought a Music-Hall integrated amp and a pair of B&W 686 S2 speakers, and a JL Audio powered 8" sub-woofer. CD player is a Sony CDP C-445 multi-disc player that I bought for $100 used. Turntable is one I have from years ago, a Technics SL-D2 direct-drive with a plastic-looking Grado cartridge, not sure of model, it was back in the early ’90s.

This morning I tried to do an A/B comparison between my turntable and my CD player. Music was Pink Floyd’s "Dark Side of the Moon". Old scratched 20-year-old CD versus brand-new bought yesterday LP from the local vinyl store.

It was difficult to do a proper A/B because every time I switched to the phono input on the amp, I had to increase the volume to about 2 o’clock, and when I switched back to the CD input I had to dial back the volume to about noon.

The amp has a phono input so I am assuming it has a built-in phono pre-amp, right? If so, why is the volume still so low? Would upgrading to a better cartridge increase the volume? I am open to a newer, better-quality turntable if it will improve the sound considerably. I have hundreds of LPs, about half of which are in good condition and would probably be good to listen to after a good cleaning, BUT I also have hundreds of CDs, and if the turntable / LP would not yield significant improvement over the CDs, then I am hesitant to invest further in analog.

So.... back to the point... if I could get close to the same volume from my phono as I do from CD, it would be easier to do a decent A/B. Could a different cartridge in my existing turntable achieve that?

Alternatively I could check with my local hifi store and see if they would let me bring home and test-drive a turntable.

Sorry for the long post. Thanks for reading and thanks in advance for your time and advice.

Eric Zwicky
Richmond VA
ezwicky

Showing 1 response by ghosthouse

ezwicky - not exactly what you are asking about but somewhat related and hopefully helpful...

Why not just enjoy what you have for a while before upgrading to an external phono pre-amp? Not saying don’t do it ever, but sounds like you have a lot of vinyl that has been unplayed for some time and are trying to get reacquainted with its sound.    I'm not surprised you need to bump up the volume when playing records vs CDs.  The output voltage from my CDP is way higher than from my phono-pre.  A volume adjustment isn't unusual.  It isn’t like you are trying to run a low output moving coil and just don’t have adequate gain.

I use a Technics table w/Grado Black cartridge. The nice thing about the Prestige series is you can substitute a higher end stylus in the lower level cartridge bodies like the Black. You could go with a Grado Gold (top of the Prestige series) or get an 8MZ V stylus that some people think is an improvement (the option I choose). Price is the same: $150 for either. If unsure about the health of your current Grado Black stylus, get a new one for $50 bucks from Needle Doctor (they carry the full line of Grado replacement styli including Gold and 8MZ). Use the Black stylus for older more beat up vinyl and the Gold or 8MZ stylus for the pristine stuff. Enjoy the stuff you have for a while. Get used to the sound. Then decide if you want to invest further in vinyl playback.

Don’t make yourself crazy with volume matching and A/B testing from the get/go. Live with the sound of your records for a while. Once you are familiar, volume matching - while still helpful - won’t be as much of a distraction and I think you will begin to better hear what vinyl has to offer you vs digital.