Will the panel know the price range?
They will know they are floorstanders priced at $3K or less. Pretty hard to hide that since it is public knowledge. |
First...I'm asking for recommendations to include in a shootout like we did for small speakers in 2007. That blind shootout was for standmounts under $1,000. THere were 11 speakers. The panel will NOT know what speakers are in the shootout. Also, please be specific with model numbers and their prices. Example: "I'd like to include the Mojosmasher RX10m for $2,795".
As we always say, no one should make a buying decision based on the results of a shootout, even though we perform full measurements on them as well. It's very true that the results will be dependant on one room and one very high resolution system. But there will be five different sets of ears and their attendant listening biases. And, of course, direct comparisons of speaker vs speaker in the same category. Like all tests or opinions, there are advantages and disadvantages. This is just one approach to help people make the most informed decisions when it comes to auditioning speakers not buying them. It has the potential to help narrow down the time needed to audition speakers. And it is also loads of fun to discuss and debate.
So please do some serious thinking about standmount speakers for $3,000 or less. If YOU were choosing the speaker candidates, what would they be? |
Avguy,
Manufacturers are ask to fully burn in their speakers before they submit them. Does that help? |
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First, yes. You can actually SEE the system used since it will be the same as our last shootout. Here's the link:
http://www.stereomojo.com/Small%20Speaker%20Shootout%202007/SmallSpeakerShootout2007Part1.htm
Second,just like last time, each speaker will also be fully measured with the charts published.
Third, each speaker will also get its own individual review in yet a different system, room and reviwer.
Perhaps that's why our shootouts are so well respected.
You said, "Otherwise, people looking for real useful information will be mislead to expect certain things with these speakers on their systems and in their rooms, which are different, and have stronger chance of being disapointed in reality."
"Stronger chance of being disappointed" than what? Having no information at all? We think 5 people hearing them in the same room with the same system listening to music that spans classic orchestral, jazz, male & female vocal and others, with the added full measurements AND an individual review by a single reviewer in his own room with his own system adds up to rather good information for our readers...don't you? Is it perfect? Flawless? Of course not. Nothing is. But in these cases, the object is the more accurate and unbiased info you can get, the better. Make sense? |
"03-26-09: Tvad
If you know the brands in the blind shootout, is the shootout really blind?
Great question! No, it would NOT be if I were one of the judges. But I am not. The judges will not know the speakers in the shootout. We go to great lengths to keep them hidden. We make the judges leave the room between rounds so that they cannot accidentally see something during setup or even hear the white noise when we do the level matching. |
Let me explain something else
Here's why we need specific model numbers:
We have a list of specific speakers submitted by our readers and fro sites like audiocircle, agon and others. The specific models that get the most "votes" or are ost requested will be the first ones requested from the manufacturers until our quota is met. So, if you just request a brand name and not a specific model, we throw it out.
Also, we cannot use speakers from AV123 or Usher because we have contracted with GR Research to do our indepedent measuring and to facilitate the shootout. GR works with AV123 and Usher so there is a conflict of interest.
Hope this helps - and thanks for the good suggestions! |
Thanks Mapman.
If we get enough votes for them, we will contact Ohm. Actually, I probably will anyway to see if we can get a standard review.
Anyone know a person at Ohm to specifically contact? |
Rumadian,
What would be better? Individual review? We're doing that. Prolonged listening? We're doing that. Measurements? check.. Yes...listening in your own home is always the best. This will just help narrow down or add some choices. The more information you have, the better. If you can't see that, it's ok. Besides..even if it were only entertainment, can't we all use a little these days? :) |
What's funny is...how many buying decisions do you think are made by people who have read posts here from people they know nothing about....thousands. Yet people criticize something done professionally for their benefit. Go figure. |
Thanks for the suggestions so far. We have gotten emails from all over the world and many suggestions on other boards. So far, Salk Songtowers are the #1 model people have submitted. Just want to keep you informed. |
Thanks Mapman
"Where do I volunteer". What a wonderful spirit. People who spend their time criticizing those who actually do something for their fellow men but do nothing themselves are the bane of a free society. Talk is cheap. Positive actions are priceless. Stereomojo is just a group of experienced people who do a lot of work for no money to benefit others who share our passion. That's it. It's frustrating to have to spend our precious time dealing with people who never get off their butts to do anything but sit around and criticize others - in public no less. Why? To make themselves look important and knowledgeable. I'm glad their are people like you who see through it all.
If you think our past shootouts are not taken seriously, just google STEREOMOJO SHOOTOUT and see the comments from all over the word.
Just an example:
音樂大廳:: Search - [ Translate this page ]
15 posts - 6 authors - Last post: Oct 4, 2006
onkyo也有!! 我當初是看這篇文章燃起了試試的想法. The great digital amp shootout http://www.stereomojo.com/SHOOTOUT2007INTEGRATEDS.htm ...
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Just for fun...
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Isreal?
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הלינקים בקישור שנתת מובילים ל "The gread digital amp shootout" http://www. stereomojo.com/SHOOTOUT2007INTEGRATEDS.htm מבחן "עיוור" שמאד נהניתי לקרוא, ...
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GREECE?
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Digital Amp Shootout 2007 - Integrated Δικάναλοι Ενισχυτές. ... Το Stereomojo φιλοξενεί συγκριτική δοκιμή Class-D και Class-T ολοκληρωμένων ενισχυτών. ...
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Авторитетный сетевой журнал StereoMojo.com присвоил акустике Omega Speakers звание ... Если вы читали наш Great Digital Amp Shootout 2007, то знаете, ...
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trong đợt shootout giữa mấy cái digital amp trên stereomojo thằng này thắng hết mấy cái giá 1k-2k :adore: ...
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... op stereomojo staan er een paar tussen (hele lange pagina). Op de voorpagina staat ook een link naar een 11 kleine speaker shootout. ...
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Check out the rave review of the TA-10.1 on 6moons.com, and check out the results of the digital amp shootout on stereomojo.com... the TA-10.1 did very well ...
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Un interessantissimo shootout Virtue ONE vs Trends TA 10.1 vs ... - [ Translate this page ]
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Solo poche righe per informarvi che Stereomojo.com ha appena pubblicato uno shootout molto interessante dedicato alla "mini" amplificazione. ...
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Kinda interesting,no? |
