If the DAC is the same, how different do CD transports sound?


One interesting topic of discussion here is how audible the differences are between CD players when they are used as transports only — or when they are only transports to begin with.

In other words, in a comparison which keeps the DAC the same, how much difference can be heard between CD transports?

This recent video by Harley Lovegrove of Pearl Acoustics provides one test of this question. It may not be the ultimate test, but he does describe the experimental conditions and informations about the qualifications of the listeners.

He comes to the main conclusion here: https://youtu.be/TAOLGsS27R0?t=1079

The whole video is worth watching, I think.

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@coralkong

 

Once you hit a certain level of transport and DAC coupled with very clean amplification, good cabling, speakers, etc...the differences are pretty easy to hear.

Listening and comparing a couple sub $1000 transports probably won’t tell you much.

So the sub $1000 transports pretty much sound the same? Even on a system with very clean amplification, good cabling, speakers, etc.? That’s quite an accomplishment in consistency it would seem. I’d get the impression that the bad transports would sound much more different in their various flaws, while the more perfected transports would become increasingly difficult to tell apart as they approach perfection.

It’s conceivable that the cheap transports all have pretty much the exact same flaws, and it’s only when somebody makes an attempt to get past those practically uniform flaws that the differences become apparent. Each maker uses different approaches and gets slightly different results, but all are better than doing nothing at all. Maybe it’s kind of like adding coatings to lenses to reduce color abberations and glare. One maker might use a coating that looks blue, another purple, or orange. They all give slightly different results, but all are better than just leaving the lenses uncoated, which would be cheaper and perhaps fine for a lot of users.

I think the coated lenses analogy is pretty good, and one that I can relate too in my recent experience. My previous glasses had coated lenses. My newer ones do not. There is definitely a difference, but for the most part I’m seeing things just as good without the coatings as I was with them. Uncoated lenses are worthy of the best frames you might want to get with them. I’d also argue that a cheap transport is worthy of the best sound systems out there. Whatever a cheap transport’s shortcomings are, it’s never going to be the weakest link in any sound system, unless it’s just downright malfunctioning, or makes too much mechanical noise.

Maybe someone someday can do a deep dive on source to dac issues and come up with some good explanations and examples of what can go wrong. I’m convinced that weird things can go wrong even though the music keeps playing. I’ve heard it myself ; strange and obvious distortion that somehow creeps into the signal chain, and it’s source is in the digital domain. A re-start usually fixes it. I’ve always experienced these anomalies when I’m feeding the digital signal in some kind of daisy chain of devices before it reaches the dac. Some things I think I understand, like when one device is set to 44.1 and another to 48 kHz. You get the playback speed varying all over the place to keep the two devices in sync. Other issues I’ve heard are high distortion, making me think a coil is rubbing. A flute sounds like a kazoo. I’ve also seen video artifacts creep in through fully HDMI connections, where I see a slight ghosting until I unplug and re-plug the HDMI cable. There’s so much processing going on between these devices that opportunities for a corrupt but playable signal can happen.