Warrenh, you are probably right, except that I come from music. Is there certain music that is more correct? I had a dream right around the time that I received the APL Hi-Fi Denon 3910. It consisted of me receiving gifts. I finally figured out that it had to do with the APL Denon! Can you excuse me, there are some people with white coats knocking on my front door? |
I want to apologize to Warrenh. In fact, can you recommend any albums or cd's for me to listen to? My musical tastes have to broaden. Tarsando, I posted on the price of the APL, but maybe it hasn't gone through yet. If your finances don't permit, you might want to investigate Ori's(of Oritek Audio) Zhalou DAC. I don't know if it will satisfy like analog can, but it is considerably cheaper than the APL. I have problems with a lot of cd players, so if you are like me, I wouldn't buy one unless it satisfies. I also have problems with lp's made after 1981. |
I've got a cd for you Warrenh. It's called, "Celtic Spirit", from the Narada Collection Series. I'm not sure this is the proper way to contact them. Let me just say that cd people have been less than honest. This cd is honest. You won't find digitis with this cd. Cd people need to get honest(or they are deaf)! I have heard many cd's , and cd players that are unbelievably unmusical. Come on, are you guys that deaf? Cd's and cd players are not created equally. You guys are unbelievable! Do you actually like listening to music? Why don't you have, at least, an analog system to get grounded? |
Warrenh, go ahead, but maybe you missed an insult? I'm sorry, but I thought I was asking for advice on cd's? I don't worry about takers. Why is that? I want to mention that that I'm new to cd. I need education. I re-read my post, and it was a little weird, but it is not an analog versus digital traditional post. It is just a wondering. In fact(and this is something that suprises me), I've found with my cd player(APL Hi-Fi Denon 3910), if I get digital glare, that I need to turn down the volume. I don't know what this is due to(I have several ideas.), but I would suggest that if you get digital glare, that you turn down the volume. I wonder, as a neophyte to digital, why I'm the one who suggests this? As far as a pissing contest, since I'm almost 55, I will have to check my pants first. |
Warrenh, are you a Scorpio? You are very suspicious. When I asked for cd's and records that you would advise, I did it to get possible exposure to music that I might appreciate. You may have asked an extremely insightful and reasonable question here. Let me just answer that question with my integrity. Think about it. I'm the guy who asked, "When is digital going to get the soul of music". I also have a $10,000(circa 1992) turntable setup. Also, look at my reviews of Alex's 3910 before the recent upgrade. What would be your conclusion after looking at these facts? If you are looking for the price of this APL Denon 3910, I don't know. I suspect that it is under $3500-maybe approaching $2500? I do suspect that my comment on volume might be more applicable to this new 3910 than to other players. I would need to get some feedback to see if this is true. |
Why am I, a cd neophyte(but not a digital neophyte), the one who has to say this? It's about volume(and I thank Hi-Fi Answers for this). When it comes to volume and cd, I'de suggest that if you get digital glare that you lower the volume. You see, volume is not how you think it is. Maybe my APL Hi-Fi Denon 3910 is super-sensitive in this area. Anyway, do not use volume to highlight something that you know is there. How's that? Each disc, or record(with analog, it's not quite critical-in a way) has a certain volume that makes things correct. This may involve compromises. You may know that the highs include something that the correct volume doesn't do justice to. |
I don't know if Alex, of APL Hi-Fi is even offering this particular Denon 3910. But, boy, you guys better ask him to. It's that good! Don't you guys realize that I am a skeptic when it comes to digital? |
Alex says that his Denon 3910 is $2500. That's the one that I am talking about. Please ask for it. It beat my $10,000 analog. If you don't know, I am an analog lover. I also heard this past weekend a $500,000 system with Meitner digital gear. I don't want to suggest that APL Hi-Fi's Denon is comparable(actually, in a way, it is). |
I am sitting back trying to learn from what I read here. I believe TVAD described my APL 3910 correctly, though. I don't think that I was brainwashed by Alex on this player, because before this latest version, I preferred my vinyl(which I think Alex took exception to). The people here have probably correctly identified my problem as not being due to Alex's player. For instance, my preamp is the RGR 3 from the 1980's. BTW, I've doubled my meds. Do you think it will help? |
You guys must think that I'm kidding. Let me tell you, I have 2,000 lp's and maybe 5 cd's(although I've accessed many more). Do you think I want cd to beat lp? Ask Alex for the Mmakshak version of the 3910. I want lp to beat cd. In fact, Alex said he has an upgrade(minor), that I'm looking forward to, as it will allow me to lower the tracking force on my nude Archiv, with the corresponding anti-skate-which I'm a current expert on(due to those that know being not-forthcoming). I'm not kidding here guys! |
I can't help it. I am interested in music. I don't care about me. I'm too old for that! I don't know how Alex did it, but he did. What I'm trying for here is to get my analog(circa 1992) to equal Alex's 3910. Don't worry, I've not given up! In the meantime, you ought to investigate what I've said. |
I've been drinking again guys, but I really appreciate all your responses. I've not seen a response that is not worth reading! I appreciate all the responses in defense of me. I have to address what Rauliruegas has said, though. My main objection to cd was my physical response to it, which, in many cases, was tension. My $10,000 analog was what it cost in 1992. I actually paid $3700 plus shipping. It is a Linn, Ekos, nude Archiv, Mana Sound Table, Lingo. I've not given up on analog, as I will try to lower my tracking force(which is in the correct parameters-except that it is higher than the previous owner had it set.) Previously, my APL Hi-Fi Denon 3910 wasn't used much, as my analog beat it. Now, it is the opposite. I will try to improve my analog to compete(as I have 2000 lp's and 5 cd's-with access to many more). Anyhow, listen to Warrenh, as he is able to read the internet(and Audigon) to an extent that exceeds my abilities. |
Rauliruegas, it's too late on one thing(the shape thing). I didn't answer your whole thread. My preamp is the RGR 3 sitting on 2-inch Mapleshade with their rubber, cork, rubber footers. Amps are the Nuforce 8.5's, sitting on 4-inch teak and isonodes, and on the preamp. Interconnects consist of Oritek X-2's between APL Hi-Fi's Denon 3910, and Signal Cable Silver interconnects between preamp and amp. Speaker cable is Signal Cable Silver(Thank you Plato.). Interconnects and speaker cable are lifted off my rug floor by styrofoam cups(per Mapleshade). Speakers are the original DCM Time-Windows(which D_edwards said are midrange recessive, and have boom and tizz(I'm not sure tweeters that only go to 16-18khz could be called tizz-boom, I might agree with.). The speakers sit upon 2-inch Mapleshade maple, with isonodes underneath. No room treatment, and one speaker sits close to a corner, while the other is close to an opening behind it. No conditioners, but a Wattgate power strip-properly plugged in the correct order. TVAD, Ori, of Oritek Audio, agrees with you about chips. |
Rauliruegas, in my limited experience with cd's, I prefer the lp over the cd almost exclusively. Now, remember, I only listen to 1982 or earlier lp's. I won't buy those albums in cd form. I am aware that there have been much more recent remastering of those albums for cd, and they may be much better. In fact, I bought the Band's, "Music From Big Pink", based on a recommendation from the Audio press. While it is good, I don't listen to it much right now. Sometimes I think the cd emphasizes things in the recording that we aren't used to(compared to the original lp). Maybe that is one reason we prefer the lp? BTW,I also think that Band's cd recommendation from the press was a good recommendation. |
