I have seen a lot of ideas concerning Cable lifters


I have seen a lot of ideas concerning Cable lifters and all seem to be pricy considering the value and appearance. But what if there was an answer that cost virtually nothing and you had the option to choose a multitude of designs and capabilities?
Glass is probably the best Neutral choice and what do we have in abundance. Used glasses (Goodwill). There are so many options around and possible just waiting one more day you can find exactly what you want and even if you don't like their choices there are options at stores that go far beyond what the High End Audio vendors offer. Here are a couple of examples:


 


 

 

esarhaddon

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For those that think this is HOKUM, take a brand new fully charged Car battery and set it on a concrete floor overnight and tell me how well that works out for you.

On the other hand, I am glad to see the numerous free-thinking minds chiming in here with their DIY projects. Most Audiophile upgrades offer such small advantages and the expense you pay for any one of them can be exorbitant, but with a little big or mental exercise, you can at least make sure your system has the best advantage with a minimal cost.
I will again suggest either glass (#1) or Ceramic (#2) as choices for lifters as glass is the least reactive. The only thing I am not sure of is whether the amount of lead in the glass makes a difference. I would think Low Lead to be the best but I have been proven wrong before and this opinion is made with Little thought on the subject. YES, ALL GLASS has some lead in it.

It looks like I opened up a lot of eyes if not minds. My original post was to inspire those WHO DO believe or want to take the chance on lifters to have either a DIY or cost-effective option. but when I see all of the bashers in here it really makes me wonder about the type of people that frequent this site. Yes, there are those who are genuine Audiophiles and then there are those who are TOTALY UNEDUCATED that BASH anything that comes across the desk without as much as any science to back up what they say. Then there are the few that had positive comments and at least one that provided an Experiment that you can do at home and prove with Repeatable results the difference. I really could care less how you feel about the subject but I often wonder why a person even visits a page like this if all they have time for is mindless nonsense at the expense of genuine users that desire to advance their lives and lifestyle. Unfortunately, this is becoming the status quo for society nowadays.
I do appreciate negative responses thrown in like @curtdr. who simply said, 

"ok... I'll restrain myself here except to say

LOL"

He got his point across without being stupid about it.

@ericsch Me thinks you are putting words into my mouth and I'll thank you to keep your paws out of my oral orifice lest I bite you.
I am not claiming martyrdom, but only pointing out that there are two types of responses here. The ignorant and those who actually have the intelligence to make a comment and then back it up. There is nothing wrong with having a different point of view or even stating such, but with all of the scientific evidence, I see from those who did choose to comment against me here it was just that IGNORANCE and I doubt any of them have more that a used Sanyo they purchased off of eBay for a sound system. As I tried to show before, most improvements of this type are adaptive and provide little actual perceivable difference, BUT when combined with the multitude of other mods, create an effect that IS noticeable. If ew microhenrys here and a farad or two other all add up to a changed output on the overall system. As far as the comments that were probably the MOST accurate, the lesser grade of shielding on a cable being responsible, when you are forking out MEGAbucks for cables it is a trade-off on what you get. That is if you actually do your homework and check out what an item actually is and how it is made.
 Then there is the type of response which p[provided nothing and I mean NOTHING. like "Sounds like an Alchemy lesson". Well, let's see Yes All glass, at least all consumer grade glass has lead in it, and lead is conductive and therefore potentially has an effect on the insulative quality of said glass. But I suspect if that person went to school, he/she didn't get a very good grade in physics or electronics 101 class.

For those who have doubts or just refuse to even consider this, how intelligent is that, I have a couple of ideas you can easily apply (in certain cases) to visualize your speaker's output. The first and easiest way is by using an APP for cell phones called ‘Decibel X’ or just ‘DB’. It is a free tool that you can use just like a frequency analyzer. Yes, it will depend on the microphone of your phone, but that can easily be remedied by using a better microphone. It takes some time to learn how to see the rapidly changing frequency charts but it works well.
 The second means of testing is IF you have a system that is tuned by 'Dirac' (Diraclive and DiracLE). This tool lets you RECORD the output of a specifically tuned sound that scans a multitude of frequencies and then provides you with a printout of the response. This uses THEIR microphone, which can also be used in the previously mentioned test with ‘Decibel X’. It will not tell you what is musically pleasant to hear, but it will provide you with an accurately tested and documented report. And I think that anyone who has utilized Dirac will tell you, that it does wonders on 'Room Corrections'.

@Holms
Like I say so often. I looked at your link about the car batteries on concrete and I saw a funny thing on the way to the market to buy some pickled pigs feet. Other that an unsubstantiated claim that it is OK to place a battery on concrete, there is NOTING on that page about it as to why one way or the other might be correct. And you bring back the statement about Alchemy. An Empty statement that says NOThING. All consumer glass does contain lead. The only difference between what is called leaded glass and that which isn't is the amount of lead used in the formulation. You actually ALMOST answered your own comment in the statement about the definition of Dielectric etc. I didn't claim that the lead makes a conductive path but that I DIDN"t know if it MIGHT have an effect on its properties. i.e Conductivity, Capacitance, Inductance...
One of the jobs I worked back in the day required me to get certified as a Master Mechanic. That was right before I went to USC to study Electronic Engineering.

@holmz  That was My intent. Sorry for not going into more detail. I was getting a little long in the tooth and didn't want to drag it out all the way. YES, You take your before and after images with Dirac and compare them. Dirac is VERY detailed and accurate. That is if you use THEIR microphone. I actually had different Groups for things like With and Without subs, and With and Without Center. That way I can tune my system to what I am listening to at any particular time. I always overengineer everything, but it ends up with ROCK-SOLID results.

@holmz Concerning your capacitance question, I might sound like I am on the negative side here but I seriously doubt that 'Capacitance' is the issue. That is unless the effect caused by the floor causes a parallel capacitance which would then modify the value of the internal cap as designed by the manufacturer. If you look at the formula for how a capacitor is rated, the air dielectric and the huge variety of materials that make up common floor coverings would create such a tiny capacitance it would not even be seen. I mean like, NOT in the same universe.
collegedunia.com/exams/capacitance-formula-with-solved-examples-articleid-2292