I finally fixed my HUM! Halalulah, and thanks for tips


Dear 'Goners:
I have suffered with a horrible ground loop hum for years, and I tried many of the fixes I read about here, hired experts to come to house and work with me to switch IC from IC, and no joy.
Finally, after being totally exacerbated, I read some basic tips found on these forums.
1. I have three pairs of dedicated 20 amp lines, had my electrician come out, and move one line to that all three were on same side of breaker box, to keep them in same phase.
2. Had him install dedicated 8' copper grounding rod outside of my listening room, and connect my three lines, as well as my Directv sat dish to this new ground point. My room is opposite end of house, over 60' away from electrical panel.
3. Moved my nosy wall warts, portable HD's for digital music, and power supply from laptop away from my amp and DAC, and moved their power onto an Equitech Q that I was using in a different room, and plugged my Marantz 8802 A/V pre pro into it for balanced power. The Marantz only has a two prong cord, not a grounded 3 prong.
Used a PS Audio P-5 regenerator for my home theater set up.
My Hegel Amp, my Playback Design MPD-5, two powered subwoofers, and now Equi tech and PS audio P5 are all plugged into one of my 6 dedicated 20 amp lines.
When I switched my preamp input to an unused source, and turned up the volume...absolute QUIET...no hum, no tube hiss, absolute, pure, blissful quiet.
Initially I had my Hegel plugged into Equitech, but sound came out flat and a bit lifeless. I plugged amp into empty dedicated line, and now everything that I hoped to hear, I am hearing. Great detail, PRAT, improved sound stage and finally appropriate resolution of fine details and spacial cues that were missing.

Bottom line; all the tips here are valid, and work, if only I had been more compulsive earlier, and not trusted that my power was in phase properly, I could have had more enjoyment earlier.  Trust the process, and don't assume that the power is fine, when it may be the culprit. Keep everything, including computer and wall warts for portable HD's, etc on the same circuits, not on the 'house' line....move the nosy power supplies away from key pieces of gear...and finally...the sound of silence. Dedicated ground rods are worth the trouble.
I am grateful, and just listening to music for a wonderful warm spring weekend here in SoCal. The contributors to these questions are great, and I wish to simply say Thank  you for all previous comments, on other posts, etc...it all is helpful.
Best,
Bob
mribob

Showing 2 responses by mark_hubbard

Thank you, Bob! My listening room / living room is at the end of our house where ceiling access is either not available or very difficult. Can dedicated circuits be run *outside* the house to reach our room? If you don't mind my asking, what was the cost of adding 6 20-amp dedicated lines? I'm assuming I will need to replace our panel while we are at it, but I'd love to know at least a "ballpark" price for such work.

MRIBob,

I came across this older thread by accident this afternoon, and I wanted to thank you for your knowledgeable and kind advice in response to my questions above,

If you are still around and reading this, what does "be sure to have him read some of the forum posts about how critical it is to have them installed with all [the] same phase...one of the best investments I did." mean? What is "phase"? Our two-storey 1850 sq ft house is approaching the age (built in 1991, we think) when I should have the whole house rewired, as we have light switches that no longer work, a sconce  lamp that "blew" the last time we tried it (and there is no power to the lamp now), and funky wiring that the previous owner did on his own, although he had poor skills at best and little knowledge about what was correct when it came to wiring. The original builder did not run enough circuits to the two downstairs bedrooms, so that running a small space heater in one will trip the breaker for both. Our overhead kitchen lighting has visible runs of romex and needs replacing... it goes on and on, but you get the idea. Can you point me towards some of the forum posts you thinkI should read before I start calling electrical contractors in our area?

Thank you again for your generous help!

Mark Hubbard

Eureka, California

P. S. While I'm asking MRIBob these questions, responses from other forum members will also be received with gratitude.