How to connect bi-wire speakers

Briefly, binding posts are one of the worst offenders in terms of audio degradation (thick metal and its affect on the electromagnetic wave as a waveguide).

Having studied power transmission lines, EM radiation, waveguides and electronics, I would simply like to point out that most electrical engineers (that I know of) would disagree with the above statement (when dealing with signals at audio frequencies).

I am not disputing the fact that many people are convinced that they hear something different...I just beg to differ on the scientific explanation.

As far as science is concerned (to my best knowledge), one should not expect an audible difference from any of the commonly used binding posts (provided a suitable connection is made).

Describing a binding post as "one of the worst offenders in terms of audio degradation" is a patently false statement (IMHO).

Jeff,

Can you point me to a specific paper as there are more than thirty listed at the URL you gave.

I agree wholeheartedly that all these concepts are in engineering textbooks, at least they were twenty years ago. I am not questioning any of these engineering principles.

However, waveguides and effects such as you describe have long been regarded (by most electrical engineers and professors that I know) as having negligible impact to the signal at audio frequencies and cable lengths (meters not kilometers) used in most hi-fi system configurations.

It is the application of these theories to the range of audio frequencies in the configuration of a typical hi-fi system where I beg to differ/question whether they can have such a large affect as to be one of the worst offenders.

Thanks to point me to the specific paper that shows a binding post (or cable) can be the worst offender.

Jeff,

Thanks I managed to get the first link ( even though it was a little garbled on the thread )

In case anyone else is following this, it should read

http://www.essex.ac.uk/ese/research/audio_lab/malcolmspubdocs/G3%20HFN%20Essex_Echo_(cables_1985).pdf

I fully agree with the discusion and math starting from Maxwell's equations ...who can argue with that!

I also agree with the calculations in terms of the math and the application of wave propagation theories to highly attenuative media like copper. There is no doubt that these losses and distortions do occur.

Again where I beg to differ is the magnitude of these EM effects in relation the very large primary signal.

The numbers suggest that the secondary distortionary effects of EM field propagation generated by the current flow in copper media can be ignored compared to the size of the primary signal (current flowing down a cable and responding principly to LCR lumped circuit theories, current being a bunch of electrons)

Nevertheless, your references and material is very interesting and I plan to read up more on this subject and the links you have provided. Definitely Happy Reading there! Thanks

Rlwainwright,

Your understanding matches mine. IMHO up to 2 Msec of delay between drivers is what most pros believe is below audibility... so most speakers are designed with this in mind. Generally a smooth phase response is desired rather than pure minimum phase...smooth phase may be important to preserve timbre.....but 2 Msec is a far cry from 200 nanosecs. There is a lot going on in a speaker and cross over network ....far more effects on phase than in a cable. Active designs usually have better phase response than passive designs but are still far from perfect. With so much going on in the speaker I don't lose any sleep about what is going on in the speaker cables. I may be completely wrong on all this... but that is my interpretation of the physics behind this stuff.