How Is This Possible? Must be Counterfeits

Selling the Bridge of San Francisco for a price as low as $ 60K is not a scam if you believe that you own the bridge and no one can contradict you because you live in Australia and it make you feel good.. Trust me i can sell it right now for this price...I will wait for those interested ...😊

Nordost selling a cable for $60k is not a scam if you believe that it makes your system sound better.

Cables with very high price appear to me as a scam of his own for very rich people able to call that a good deal because it make "a difference" ...

Anything can make a difference ... Legally or not ... Legitimate or not ...

How about my own cable i may sell 100K bucks only , why not ? i modified them with my secret mixture (shungite+quartz+copper ) ? 😊

Nobody ready to buy multi thousand dollars cable dare to try my simple experiment ... i trust myself ONLY my experiment ... At peanuts costs ...

You are right about my free time ...😊

You are right also nobody bash chinese tech... I only wanted to remind that there is very good product at cheap cost...😊

Thanks for the rightful respectuous  correction ...

My best to you ...

Don’t jump into conclusions just because have so much time on hand.

I am flabbergasted by the way the brain work...

Others had all the faults , ourselves none ...

I bet many had never read a book ... 😊

For sure it is true the CCP dont recognise any patent laws...😁

But what else is also true ?

To stay in the cables thread i must say that i just damped my chinese preamplifier tubes with silicone rings...(1 dollars for 10)😎

Way better imaging and details ...Like buying a way costlier cable upgrade... You know what i means ? 😁

I never encountered this improvement change with an European tube amplifier which i bought for a way higher cost than my chinese preamplifier  ( 6 times higher cost)... Anyway it was so bad headphone amplifier , a well reviewed one by the way , i sold it with 40 tubes few years ago for a low price 😁... I vouch to never bought tubes again ... 😊 I was wrong ...

Then i will not bash low cost Chinese product. Some are more than just good for the price ...Some are trash... It is the same thing in any country by the way some gear are bad and some are good ...

The government of China does not recognize international patent laws and some people take advantage of this.

For sure...

 And most  Chinese as most American engineers will laugh at me using shungite and quartz...

It only prove that engineers had limits...

Being nothing i had no limits...😊

My cables are "different" but i dont sell them ... 😉

czarivey

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04-08-2024 at 01:25pm 

Some chinese are crook and ignorant...

Some others are not...

How many engineers are created each years in China ?

Perhaps a lot more than in most parts of the world for obvious reasons and yes most of engineers including Chinese strongly believe that the only difference between any wire including fakes and Nordost is just a brand name for which you can pay upto $30k more.

It is not far less preposterous to think that buying a 50,000 bucks gear upgrade for a living room will be 30,000 times better than a 20,000 system in a dedicated acoustic room ...

And this proposal is the general intuition among many audiophiles..

Acoustics rules audio not price tags ...

it is hard to imagine buying a $40,000 pair of cables for $100 and thinking it’s the real thing........................................yes, but do they sound $39,900 TIMES better.

it is hard to imagine buying a $40,000 pair of cables for $100 and thinking it’s the real thing...

Some even asked the question ...😊

Some even buy a 20,000 bucks cable...😋

Some even will hear no differences between the 20,000 bucks cables and the fake...😁

Some smile because even if effectively cables matter they dont matter as much for 20,000 bucks in most limited budget ...

Those who will contradict this will argue that there is a "difference"... They are not even wrong...I myself hear a difference between all my cables...Yes i am not deaf... I tuned my 100 resonators and it was not bad... 😏

My point is any system must be balanced by all parameters implied in a room ...Cables matter way less than the acoustic location and price of my chair ...😎

Give me a 20,000 bucks chair ...

I will use a chinese non counterfeit cables and all will be OK in my marvellous acoustically well located chair ...

If all details matter as claimed by cables sellers , the chair position matter way more among many other as much important acoustic parameter...

Why there is no chair position and comfort threads between two cables thread ?

Because no one sell acoustic chair ... 😉

Read the two tweets above in my posts to understand why ...😊

Your government allow very much more than that but it is not in the news ...

By the way there is not much more government here in Canada... It is the same lobbies ...

It makes me kind of mad that our government allows this to happen.

This Taleb know something others dont know :

I read his books by the way and his master was Benoit Mandelbrot the genius creating fractals geometry  who i read in 1976 in french when he was unknown ...😊

I trust Taleb judgement listen the video he commented about a Chinese diplomat speaking of Great Britain ...

https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/1776964373761720543

https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/1776801470874071551

Some Chinese cable are certainly good but i dont know which one , as some american cable are good but i dont know which one ...

Bashing all chinese products is childish reaction ...

No acoustician ever bought 30,000 bucks cable for his system guess why ?

😊

you are probably not far from truth :

Chances are they are exactly what Nordhost makes but not "authorized" by them. It doesn't matter anyway because the "real" Nordhost cables won't sound any different than these versions. You're mostly paying for the name.

 Some chinese are crook and ignorant...

Some others are not...

 How many engineers are created each years in China ?

Exactly right ...

This is why we must buy nothing which is not  a chinese product under a chinese brand name especially in audio  ...

I bought at a ridiculously low price a headphone amp +tube preamplifier  Fosi and Douk... Incredible ratio S.Q. price ... I used it for movie from my computer with my speakers or Akg K240 headphone ...

I will never bought a western product sold there  with a western name... 😊

Everything that’s brand name sold on aliexpress is chinese fake. That’s everything - not just cables.

What is the cost of a Nordost Odin cable ? 😊 Many, many thousand bucks ...

There is nothing puzzling...

They are fake sold at 100 bucks...

Only helpless people can believe this is a deal ...

The problem is some helpless people buying them can decide to resell them as true Nordost Odin ... Then helpless people became a bandit ...

And bigtwin is right ...There is another thread check it ...

Cables thread are most of the times useless...