How important is it for you to attain a holographic image?

 2018 and no soundstage yet? It's hard (impossible, frightening) for me to entertain the thought of stereo playback without it's soundstage. It's hard for me to imagine not playing fullrange, or having a system that doesn't play, fully, all of my recordings. When I read people saying they have part and not able to get all, it makes me wonder what are they waiting on.

Only getting part of stereo would be torture for me.

Michael Green

It’s interesting that some folks talk about the live performance as the same event as playback when the two are completely different functions. It’s also funny to me how so many high-end-ers don’t know what a soundstage even is. Did that sound impolite? It's not meant to. It's just that I'm truly surprised that after all this time there is still confusion over what thousands of studio engineers produce every day for us to playback.

We live with a soundstage every day with or without the stereo playing. It’s a natural function of our sense of hearing and feeling. A recorded soundstage is no mysterious illusion. Having a system that can’t play a soundstage, now that’s the illusion.

mg

It seems to me that a lot of people posting are not getting a holographic soundstage. Here's why. If you are getting a holographic soundstage you automatically get all of the above. Within the "real space" "real size" of a soundstage you get all the attributes there are to offer. If you are not getting it all you have a partial stage. Reading these responses it's pretty clear most are getting a slice and not the whole pie. That's not necessarily a bad thing, just reality.

Michael Green

Hi Orpheus10

You’re more than welcome to hang out with us on TuneLand. But it also may be important for you to be here. It may feel like your beating your head against the wall with some of these folks but I can tell you, there are people reading who either have or are also approaching that "real size" "real space" soundstage. As you know once you hear it the hobby changes for us, forever. 95% of the people who do find it usually don’t stay in the same hobby as you read here. It’s like one by one and then they retire to their music heaven. And it should be that way.

The thing that keeps me sane here is, when I am done here I have a list of listening friends to help or listen with. If I were an Agon lifer you'd find me sitting staring out a window somewhere.

Michael Green

Hi Newbee

Lets start with an easy one that everyone can do and it will help everyone see where we all are.

Beatles Abbey Road: Track 10 "the crickets"

This is one you can use in the studio, at home or even a pro event stereo mix. It's one of the most written about references as well as used in classrooms.

Most of the time you would have everyone listen and then write and draw what they heard. Then they hand it in to the teacher and the different versions are then discussed. I've done this as well on TuneLand.

mg

Yep, you start looking at all those recordings that you get to rediscover. I'm very happy for you guys!!!

mg