How good does my system have to be to realize an improvement with cables?


I've heard the difference power cables and interconnect cables in a highly resolving system so that's not the question.  $200 for cables  on a $500 DAC doesn't make sense to me.  Wouldn't that $200 be better spent on a better component?  At what point is an expensive cable the best choice?  Spending $500 on a $15,000 DAC does make sense as the transparency and resolution of the component could be better realized with a better signal / power source.

My question is what's the  percentage of the overall component's cost should be the cabling and at what point should it even be considered?

Or put a different way How would you know if your cables are your weakest link?

 

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A Speaker Cable is a good starting place to pick up on how a Cable Interface can impact on the SQ of a System.

A Tighter/looser Base and Mid’-Range Projection / Suppression are reasonably easy to detect as Cables are exchanged.

This is a good starting place to attune the ear, as this where the most immediate changes are likely to be detected.

The other good side to using speaker Cables is that there are plenty options at fair money, and a cheap option can easily impress over a much more expensive option.

I have in the past swapped out carefully selected $20 per metre Cables for Mapleshade Double Helix Clearview Cables, and very recently, replaced the Mapleshade Cables with a Acoustic Revive PC CCC Cable which is a much lesser price and surpasses the M’shades as an Interface.

Other Cable comparisons are not such an affordable option, and can get quite expensive, seeking out Cables with a Return Period included in a sale might be beneficial, to increase the experiences.

To get the idea of the M'shades performance, I loaned them out, where they were used at a Speaker Cable Bake Off, with a range of Silver and Copper Cables present at a cost of up to £500 per metre.

These were used on an EAR Valve Amp > Quad ESL System.

The M'shades were selected as Joint Top Performers along with a Silver Cable.

I was very pleased to learn of this, as it was testimony to my choice made from previous investigations.

The organiser of the event only deselected the M'shades as they would be an Import to the UK, and they wanted to Support UK Business.

The Silver Cables were chosen from the Brand True Silver, it is not too difficult to check out their prices.  

I have a long-term investigation into Cables at all interfaces within the home system.

The continuation of experiencing other Cables within my system, has over the past recent months, resulted in my exchanging RCA Phono Cables and has led to discovering a Power Cable as well.

Each of the New Selection for Cables have shown more valued presentation is on offer from these New Selections, that surpass previous Cables trialed and given a permanent place.

The process is based on prior experiences and the learning gathered through these experiences.

The Good Thing about these types of endeavours, is that there is not a great skill required, the swapping of Cables is quite straight forward, with only a simplistic discipline required to carry out the exchanges, in some cases only to turn the Volume Down and in other cases to Power Off prior to the exchange.

Tube Rolling is met with a similar discipline requirement, and anybody who has Tube Rolled and discovered a Tube that is a preference over another, will already have an ear with an attunement to detect an effect a Cable can have on a replay.

This time around the Cable Trials proved to be a little more time consuming, as the full impact of certain exchange at certain interfaces required an extended period of A/B comparisons.

At a Bespoke Built Valve DAC > CDT the New RCA Phono Cable Type that proved to have had the greatest impact and attraction, has been a D.U.C.C wire Cable.

When using this on a SUT > Valve Phonostage > Pre-Amp', the impact was less noticeable, but what was being detected proved over time to be the preferred presentation. 

My OCC Silver DIN/RCA Phono Cable is now replaced with a Cable that has       PC Triple C wire. It took a long time to finally settle on the Silver OCC Wire Cable, and the PC Triple C was an immediate exchange, there is no desire to experience the OCC Silver anymore.

I have also been using a PC Triple C Power Cable.

The New Power Cable has proved to be an interesting umbilical, as it has what can be described as very noticeable impact on devices with Topologies that are Solid State or SS/Valve Hybrid but not as noticeable on Point-to-Point Topologies, which are an all-Valve Design. 

The PC Triple C Wire Power Cable when used on a Valve DAC has been very attractive, when used on the CDT, the impact has been to my assessment almost parity.

When used on a Valve Phonostage and Valve Power Amp, the impression made is less, but without doubt improved over other Cables used in past trials.

The PC Triple C Power Cable has been loaned and used on a SS DAC to very good effect and also used on a Valve Hybrid CDP to very good effect. 

A friend who is a designer and producer of a SS Phonostage has had my PC Triple C Wire Power Cable on long-term loan, following the good impression it has made.

The follow up to the loan was a gathering of Cables to be used in comparisons.

My Cable is a Nanotech, Furutech and Acoustic Revive PC Triple C Wire Power Cables as well a ferw other loaned Cables were put to trial.

The return report was quite interesting, as the Cable, which was selected, was a PC Triple C Wire Cable, but the one that was the most affordable.

I have made the selected Cable Known in the Link. 

At the asking Price, I strongly recommend buying in a Length and terminating it onto Copper Pinned Plugs to produce one cable and using it on different devices in the system.