How good does it get?


Hello.

I'm trying to complete my modest audio system with a pair of quality speakers. To date I have:
1) Two Citation 7.1 amps- 4x150 W/ch. (2x450 bridged)
2) Arcam FMJ CD-23 cdp
3) Conrad Johnson PF-R pre

Right now I have a pair of speakers which provide GREAT imaging, have a very natural, detailed and spacious sound and are very decent in bass response and lack of coloration. Now I want MORE!

I'm hoping to get a pair of speakers which will; by a VERY, VERY, wide margin; surpass my present speakers.

I'm willing to spend over ten times the money on a used pair of speakers as I spent on my present speakers-NEW.

The bad news is that I presently own a pair of Wharfedale Sapphire 88's (6" woofer, 6" mid in separate enclosure and 1" silk dome tweeter) that I purchased for $79.00 each plus shipping-(Total of $290.00 delivered to my door)

I have no drivers liscence and there are no high end audio shops within 30 miles of me. As a result I have heard none (not a one) of the offerings put out by the various manufacturers that may be of interest to me. This situation results in my having to buy a pair of speakers without the benefit of an audition. I am therefore relying on the opinions and impressions of Audiogon members, (whose opinions I trust) to steer me to the speakers which will satisfy my audio cravings.

I'm sure that by now it's quite clear that I'm VERY inexperienced in high end audio. I have heard absolutly NO high end systems.

So back to my original thought- How much better does it get? (For a guy who is so inexperienced in high end audio) I've been trying to do my homework as far as whats available in my price range- Von Schweikert VR-4,VR-4 Gen II, VR-3.5, Silverline Sonata, Sonatina ,Sonatina II, JM-labs 920.1, 915, Vandersteen 2Ce-sigs,3A-sigs, VMPS RM-2 Neo's, B&W N804, N803,Matrix 802 S-III, Legacy Classic's, Dunlavy SC-III,SC-IV, Norh 9.0 Marble, Dynaudio Audience 82, Contour 3.0, Contour 1.8 Mk II, Hales Rev. IIII, Snell V, NHT-2.9, 3.3, Monitor Audio 9 silver, 20 Gold, Theil 3.6, 1.5, and various others by Joseph, ACI, KEF, Ect,Ect......

So what should I buy? I'd like a highly detailed, smooth speaker with terrific bass response.

I'm looking for a full range floorstander, the thinner dimensionally, the better, the fuller the sound- the best!

Will 10 times the money buy me 10 times the speaker? 5x the speaker? 2x the speaker? A "noticeable difference" or something like "A huge difference in the percieved response of all audio frequencies, audible or not"

Please, looking for a straight shooter to set me straight.

Thanks,

Steve





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Showing 1 response by mwalsdor

I've had my Silverline Sonatinas (Avalon version) IMS for over two years. My buddie has the same speakers, so we've heard them with a variety of components (7 different amps collectively). We both enjoy them very much, and if it weren't for my recent aquasition of a SET amp I wouldn't even consider replacing them. The Moth with 45 tubes puts out 1.8-2wpc, the Sonatinas are a friendly load but only 93dbs - not the best match. Still they sound great together, I can only wonder what the Moth would sound like paired to a more sensible driver, thus my thoughts of speaker auditions.

Not wanting to cost Alan Yun a sale, based on your preferences I wouldn't recommend the Silverlines, or instead of the Sonatinas, I would think the Sonata would be closer to your preference. While the Sonatinas are highly detailed, smooth and have a small footprint they are not "bass happy" speakers. While very pleased with the propulsive bass IMS, there're alot of speakers with a more prominent bass profile.

As far as ratios go, 10 times the monies will not give you 10 times the speaker. YMMV, but I would hazard to guess more along the lines of 2-3x. My advice is that JUST changing one component, even a core component will not typically result in a "very, very wide margin" of improvement. The result of all the upgrades TOGETHER will have or could have a dramatic improvement in performance. Syngery is a powerful thing, it isn't always the pedigree of each component but how well they work together as a system. In my case the SET amp made a big difference, but the resulting change in sound was actually small, its that THAT small change was greatly valued. Some may either not discern the change or appreciate the upgrade from the fine amp it replaced. But I did.