How Big of a Difference?


Hello all,

I have near completed upgrading my system, but have left my speaker wire the same. My system is as follows- Laptop (Tidal) > Schiit Gumby Multibit > Freya S > Vidar monoblocks > speakers. My usb cable is Supra usb, and I am using xlr connections with amazon basics cables. If I am not mistaken, xlr is already super good at being noise resistance so I shouldn't need to spend more $ on fancy cables at my current level of audio equipment. My speaker wire is traditional 12 gauge wire I spliced from the spool. Nothing fancy. The reason I feel I shouldn't spend money on better speaker wire is because I traded the Supra usb for a super cheap usb and could not hear a difference. On top of that, I used to use single-ended connections using Chord C-line cables, and I could not tell the difference between those and cheap ones. What is everyone else's consensus? Can you guys hear a difference in your system? Thanks for the help.

oedstrom11

Showing 2 responses by oldhvymec

I know this if you you don’t try different cables you won’t hear a difference. Getting your cables routed and off the floor with copper cabling and copper terminal ends will improve the SQ and lower the floor noise. First things first.

I know what I like. I know what I don’t like. It doesn’t cost a lot. BUT you have to try stuff. NOT spend money, try stuff first. Routing and off the floor first though.. Cable Art...

Regards

If the power cord is doing some other stuff like filtering noise, then I could understand that as a goal.

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Now you understand why different construction techniques are really important.

From the receptacle back is one issue. From the plug on is another. I use conditioners/regulators/maintainers. Nothing fancy BUT, the reaction time to spikes and low voltage is VERY quick. That is what I use it for.

PC Power Cables (not CORDS) are the first AC cabling you have a say so over. Before that you have to meet code.

IF a 1000 dollar component needed a 3000.00 PC to sound good it's not because of the cable, it's because of a crap power supply design. It's just that simple.

OCC is a process. I'm sure there are degrees of the OCC process that change the outcome of the product. It has nothing to do with the coppers signature as much as what is or is NOT around the conductor. LIKE other conductors and the effect of or lack of effect from the dielectric, and protective armor.

In my setup, cabling can account for a 2% change in the signature. It's so slight now, I have to really pay attention. 

Heavy copper and bass go together. It needs to be good heavy copper with excellent armor.

Direct coupled. OFC, or OCC or super duper OCC, or whatever you dig up, I can't hear the difference to save my life. You know why? Because BASS likes BIG, FAT copper cabling. Period. Put all the lipstick you want on that pig it's still just a pig.

BTW the ears are holding up just fine, too. I still check against my little reference system. MX110z, and MC225. What kind of cabling do you think it uses, and have for 20+ years? Solid core # 14 romex copper (stripped the outer armor) a black and a red wire twisted and put in 1/2" silicone tube. 5.00 dollars US total.. LOL 

You can put any cable you want there it will not sound better than that. It may sound different but not better. I have some 75 year old multistrand pure silver PTFE US army/air corp surplus cabling, it took 10 year to break that in, I thought it was junk then I noticed something. 1000 hours.. I gave up on that cabling 10 time at least..

Shielding, is a cable SQ killer. I use as little as possible. I'm a pretty analog guy whenever possible.. :-)

I like weaves, ribbons, and the helix designs as well. I've yet to hear better, I'm at a whoppin' 50-150.00 per cable pair 3 meters or under. Cotton and silk air tubes are nice too.. I don't solder stuff if I can help. Cold weld, copper or clad screws.. no solder. Maybe a very light tinning, maybe! Its lead, and tin and 4% silver, it's crap.
Mechanically join and secure wire and bind it with a solder lock.

I went from a 200.00 usd Cat 5 cable to 22.00 Cat 8 and was blown away.. :-)

Time to feed the chickens..