Horn based loudspeakers why the controversy?


As just another way to build a loudspeaker system why such disputes in forums when horns are mentioned?    They can solve many issues that plague standard designs but with all things have there own.  So why such hate?  As a loudspeaker designer I work with and can appreciate all transducer and loudspeaker types and I understand that we all have different needs budgets experiences tastes biases.  But if you dare suggest horns so many have a problem with that suggestion..why?
johnk

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No current Klipsch offerings are "high end" but most of the Heritage sure can "pretend" to be "high end".

Now their now discontinued Palladium line was as close to "high end" as you can go.  The P-39F was one fine speaker.


Bill

"The Palladium series did look like fine products, but they apparently didn’t compete with conventional speakers well."

They did not compete well mainly because of price points.  At $20,000 msrp for the P-39Fs, these were a huge step up for Klipsch that many "loyal" Klipsch fans just could/would not swallow that pill.  At that price Klipsch would be rubbing shoulders with some heavy hitters and they had not "proven" they belonged in that elite group.  Many non Klipsch folks were just not willing to give them a chance, and I get that.

At some of the current used prices out in used speaker land, these Palladiums are becoming a powerhouse performance bargain.

Bill
@mr_m

Yes I know, the two links in my previous post indicated that.

I am the 

Bill
@roxy54 

"I have never heard any of the discontinued Palladiums, but I have noted that there have not been a single pair of any of them for sale on the used market in the US for months now...I've been looking. I think that says something about their desirability."   

These are my buddy Alex's down in Miami.
https://www.audiogon.com/listings/full-range-klipsch-palladium-p-39f-2017-11-18-speakers

https://www.audiogon.com/listings/full-range-flloorstanding-loudspeakers-2017-12-01-speakers

Bill
@oddiofyl 

"Though not broken in these Heresy are just plain fun to listen to....."

Never heard the Heresy III but can say just about the same thing about my Heresy I and Heresy II.  Amplifier friendly, tight punchy bass, and freewheeling dynamics.

Bill
"People with beer budgets won’t get to experience nice horn speakers so for most it is a moot subject. To do one right requires proper system matching from top to bottom with quality components."

I happen to have a "beer budget", though a fine craft beer budget, and for the price I paid for my speakers and quality components, the sound that these rigs can obtain is very listenable and pleasing without harshness.

What I don't get is why can't those that love their horn loaded(fully or hybrid) speakers love their horn loaded speakers?  I happen to really like my Klipsch speakers(Heresy I, Heresy II, RF-63, RB-75) because they sound pretty darn good to me with their selected amplification in their selected rooms.

Bill
Wow, great score.  Love the limited edition(Special Edition) Heritage models.

Bill
" I do think the Heresy IIIs aren’t so great for near field listening"

@wolf_garcia ,

I can't say for sure about the Heresy III but the HI and HII are great for near field listening, IMO.  I think that is what I am most intrigued about these speakers.  In both my rigs(Heresy I and Heresy II), I sit at one corner of a 6' x 6' x 6' equilateral triangle and feel truly immersed in the music.  Great imaging and soundstage with plenty of thump.

Bill

I am glad you were able to listen to La Scala IIs and really do appreciate your objectivity.  True bass response is excellent until it exits stage left, and right.  As mentioned on the used market, stock and modded, they are performance bargains.


Bill