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Over the weekend I was reading a post by Tok2000 titled “power cables…the debate continues” http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?fcabl&1032301269&read&keyw&zzwattgate
Bob bundus mentioned the Wattgate 381 receptacle. Other members mentioned websites to purchase it from. Thank you Sugarbrie for your recommendation of the site you suggested. If we ever meet in person I owe you a few drinks. Tubegroover, I know it’s a lot of money but you might have missed the boat on this one depending upon the Sonics/personality of your/all of our systems. NOW FOR THE REST OF THE STORY: On my four dedicated power lines I use, Hubbell hospital grade (I forget the # but it’s the one that’s talked about). After one of our distinguished members spoke highly of the FIM 880, I purchased one. This past Sunday I ordered on line a Wattgate 381. It arrived today; I installed it and plugged my power conditioner into it, (which is presently powering everything). All I can say is the Wattgate 381 made “bitches” out of the Hubbell and Fim 880 outlets I have used. I would like to try the Acme Silver-plated cryo that Fiddler spoke of, however I’m tired of spending money. If anyone has a Acme Silver – plated cryo (an Audiogoner or dealer) that I could demo and return to you please let me know, I’ll post the findings on Audiogon, Wattgate v. Acme.
Here’s what I heard: All 12 of the well recorded CD’s I listened to (that I use for demo comparison purposes) sounded as if the volume had been turned up one or two clicks. There was more detail in the lows, mids and highs. I heard a sweeter timbre and back round accompaniment I had never heard before. The sound was not harsh, and the bass was bigger and deeper. Sorry for being so wordy, buy the way I picked it up on sale off the Internet for $100. Worth every penny in my mind. Anybody want to purchase some used Hubbell’s?
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John: It appears Alan has gone back to Audioasylum where he usually hangs out so I'll step in to answer your question. The only differences between the Hubbell 5362 and 8300 are: 1) the 5362 has a nylon face where the 8300 has a thermoplastic polyester face 2) the 8300 has a very thin layer of bright nickel plating on the power contacts to prevent corrosion/oxydization and achieve the hospital grade rating which the 5362 does not and 3) the 8300 has the green dot on the front indicating the hospital grade.

Other than that, the receptacles are identical. At the wholesale price level, the 8300 sells for about $5 more than the 5362.

Here is a link to the data sheet on the 5362-from there you can search for the sheet on the 8300:

http://www.hubbellcatalog.com/wiring/datasheet.asp?FAM=Straight_Blade&PN=HBL5362I
Hdm, Thank you very much. I searched some prior threads and found some interesting stuff. Aparently, Alan used to work for Jena. I'm not sure if I want to get mixed up in the politics. I do have one Jena Labs outlet but I need two more as I have three dedicated lines. Perhaps I should talk to Alan. What's your opinion? Thanks, John
Speakerdude......a correction is in order. I did not "work for" Jena Labs. I was, however, a dealer and representative for them, and was very proud to be affiliated with them. We did CES 2002 together, along with ModWright. We were also co-manufacturing an AC line conditioner for a short time, prior to Jena Labs discontinuing their involvement in February. There are no politics involved, certainly not on my part, and none I believe, with the principals of Jena Labs. I've not heard one unkind word (from them) since we parted company. Enough said.

As far as your question regarding the cost of the hospital-grade outlet, the answer is simple, beyond the fact that I pay more for it. There are more steps in its manufacture......the multi-layered bright-nickel plating, in addition to the higher temperature & higher impact-resistant face material used......hence, the higher manufacturing cost. I hope this information is helpful.

And you are welcome to try my 5362's (or the 8300's) and compare them directly to the Jena Labs-treated 5362's. Just let me know by private e-mail.
Thank you Alan and Hdm. Alan I will try one of your outlets as recommended by Hdm in a private E-mail he sent me. Happy Listening! John