Hihat Question


Thanks in advance for your opinion-

My system is:

Anthem Integrated 225

Musical Fidelity Cd as Transport

Schiit Modi Multibit

Technics Sl 1200 mk2

Usher Cp6311

Morrow Cables

I like the system overall, plenty of bass, voices sound realistic, highs are not strident, etc.

As a drummer, I love to hear hihats, cymbals, etc. On some systems in the past I’ve heard more of this than through my setup. Most of these setups have been in the past on equipment I perceive is a lower grade than mine.

My question is: 

Should I be hearing most every hihat strike, close? Is hearing these sounds consistently the sound of a revealing system or a ‘tipped up’ presentation that I would likely tire of?

Live music varies to me in this respect, and the music on my my system varies as well. Unfortunately, I’m not able to demo where I live, so I’m interested in your opinion. Fwiw- I hear all a lot more treble in my automobile, but could be due to the euphoric goal of the manufacturer. I’m in my late 50’s, so that may play a part-

On many jazz albums, it’s all there, others not so much.

Sorry for the one post.

Thanks
uncledemp

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Thanks everybody. I’ll check those recordings out in the next few days. 

The Patricia Barber (A Fortnight in France) disc I own sounds great, drums and all.

I’ll gut check my speaker positioning and listening distance as well to insure I’m not sacrificing treble detail for bass, etc.

Also, I have some various cables to experiment with, nothing exotic, but at least different.

Thanks again for your thoughtful comments and guidance.

Kind regards-
Elizabeth,

I have a Furman conditioner and use after market power cords- some are Pangea.

Thanks for the Kimber suggestion, I’ll keep it in mind going forward.

Thanks,
gary
Shadorne, thanks for the tip, I own some 10 wpc tube monos I can try out to see if it helps any- but they are not up to grade of gear you suggest. 

Tomic601, I better bow out of the drummers role now, especially after hearing Patricia Barber’s drummer for a few minutes last night. I can help haul gear...
Joe,

I understand, one of my previous speakers were Vandersteen 2 sigs, and my experience seems similar. I also agree, in my system anyway, speakers make the biggest difference. 

Thanks for the feedback on the other models and your findings, I wondered about one of them in particular.

Good to know you can get the detail you want with the Kef and still consider them forgiving. Some of the popular vintage speakers I’ve owned had stronger highs, but that came with an irritating upper midrange to my ears. May be my hearing, my buddy never noticed the issues, and bought most of them.

Roberjerman, I have some Walsh ll I can rotate through, thanks for the feedback.


Erik,

Many of my past components had no tone controls, so I’m in the habit of bypassing them on the Anthem. However, when I dial up the treble on the integrated, it still falls short, to my ears-

I can hear it ‘all’ when I am close to the speaker. My room may very well be the issue. It’s a very open floor plan. Kitchen, foyer, and dining room adjoin my listening area.

Thanks
Thanks for all the great feedback.

I have more than enough bass as is, so I’ll see if some changes in positioning will help me with the highs. 

If if I can gain a little more in the treble region I’ll be happy. Overall, I enjoy my system, so hopefully some adjustments will get me there. 

I appreciate your comments and opinions. Have a great weekend.

gary
Bdp24,

I’m fine hearing the music as it was recorded/mastered. My integrated has tone controls, but I utilize the bypass mode.

I was given some music suggestions earlier in the thread to use as a guide. Hopefully, I’ll listen to some of them today. 

Many recordings sound great, and overall I’m happy. I was just curious to ask other’s opinions. Much of the feedback mirrored yours regarding what I should hear.

When positioning my speakers initially, I remember the speakers having a little too much bite in one area of the room - hopefully I can adjust position and maximize my speakers balance.

Thanks for the reply-

gary
Thanks again.

I fine tuned my positioning and adjusted the speaker rake a bit. I sit low on a modern style sofa, so that adjustment helped. 

I’m happy with the sound now, especially after reading these posts and getting a sense of how recordings differ. I listened to your suggested music and am pleased with how it sounds.

I’ll keep the tube preamp suggestion in mind as well as Usher’s DMD speakers in the future if the upgrade bug bites.

Best,
gary


M-db- I was inspired by my neighbor, Al, he played drums.

His extended family was in the music promotion business. They booked The Allman Brothers, and many acts of that caliber in the 70’s. He ended up with hundreds of promo albums, got concert tickets, etc.

He is two years older than me and he and his brothers and sisters are like family.

Al got me into Hifi as well. His was the first real stereo I heard, and have been hooked since then. My first concert tee shirt was probably a hand me down from him. We had many good times for sure.

I moved away and we grew apart. He’s in his last days now due to cancer. Saw him recently and told him I loved him- he told me I was a brother to him. 

Sorry everybody, my emotions overtook me. I should call him today.
Bdp24- I have not heard them, but see them around infrequently for sale. I owned some 4312’s a few years back. Are they similar? 

Rbstehno- I agree, it is all cymbals. Your remarks encouraged me to put on some Kansas, I always enjoyed his drumming. There is a video of Kansas performing Down the Road for a soundcheck in the last few years, it’s awesome if you haven’t seen it. Thanks for your remarks on components, wiring as well.
Paulcreed,

Thanks, I’ll check my cables. I appreciate to info on conditioners as well.

tomic601- Thanks for the kind words, I will.

gary